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Citing security concerns, engineers were cagey about describing how the new round works when it hits a human body. But Woods said it has "more consistent" effects on soft targets than the current round, or even the 7.62mm bullet.

"I can't say that it's more lethal than the M855. That depends on how the round hits a target," Woods said, emphasizing that accuracy is paramount. "But what I can say is that you'll see the same effects every time with this round.

In other words, this round will make the same hole as the regular M855 greentip which was already engineered to penetrate body armor and steel helmets. IMHO they are going for penetration at the expense of "stopping power" on unarmored targets. Personally speaking, I will take penetration though.

1 posted on 05/11/2011 7:14:22 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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This is just an Liberal ploy at gun control from another angle.


2 posted on 05/11/2011 7:20:31 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect. Every post gets me closer to the top of the Red List!)
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Nothing new here.


3 posted on 05/11/2011 7:22:36 PM PDT by mylife
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“doubling the effective range”

BS.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 7:22:49 PM PDT by jospehm20
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What would someone have to do to double the effective range of a 5.56 round? Heavier bullet, more powerful load, longer barrel? How can they increase range from I think 400-450m to around 800?


8 posted on 05/11/2011 7:30:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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Promotional vid from the Army: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIU5FQA7EM


9 posted on 05/11/2011 7:30:27 PM PDT by Redcitizen (In case of economic breakdown, make sure you have a case of Snickers candy bars.)
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I think Lt. Col. Jeff Woods is FOS


12 posted on 05/11/2011 7:35:34 PM PDT by mylife
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with its steel core instead of a toxic lead slug -- is far more effective than the current round, doubling the effective range

LoL "Doubling the effective range"...LoL.

19 posted on 05/11/2011 7:46:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Cost prohibitive, but enticing nonetheless. The nice thing is because of the length, most platforms can accept the mods.

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I hope that Osama had first hand experience.

21 posted on 05/11/2011 7:48:57 PM PDT by Sax
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I reload and hunt with all copper bullets made by Barnes, one of them is a 150gr. Polymer tipped Triple Shock, these are designed to “petal out” like a propeller and are advertised as “One Shot Kills”

I would put an image ut but anyone who knows hunting cartridges know what I am talking about, another Barnes bullet is called the MRX for extended down range performance.

Also I load the handgun M/LE (military/law enforcement) bullets, these are a LOT longer than same weight lead bullets, they have a very deep hollow that will create the same petal effect that creates a massive wound channel.

Of course these are big game hunting bullets and could be deemed illegal in warfare but if its solid copper with either a steel or tungsten core then they may be pretty much the same as what I hunt with. Personally I think after the right bullet is chosen and with a different powder charge the all copper bullets perform better than a FMJ lead bullet, at least out to a medium range, after that because they are lighter they do lose their energy.


22 posted on 05/11/2011 7:49:08 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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“...the new M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round — with its steel core instead of a toxic lead slug ...”

Calling lead “toxic” in this context is just plain false.

This politically correct bullet material begs a rewrite of and old saying:

For want of a powerful hit, the wound was not sufficiently disabling.

For want of a disabling wound, the soldier kept on fighting.

For want of a sufficient number of enemy disabled the skirmish was lost.

For want of winning a sufficient number of skirmishes the battle was lost...


31 posted on 05/11/2011 8:00:48 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Yes, but most firing ranges will not let you shoot this round due to liability concerns.


35 posted on 05/11/2011 8:07:14 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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Well Hallelujah, the greenie clintonista/obamists have finally repealed the laws of physics!

A 5.56mm 62gr magic bullet is superior to a 7.62mm 147gr “evil polluting bullet”, eh?.

Hmmm, who to believe? The new PC military or Isaac Newton?


47 posted on 05/11/2011 8:37:14 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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Green eh?....

My (leftie) green neighbor brought some "green" 2-stroke additive and some "green" chain grease for his new chain saw,,,

Guess what...it froze up after a some heavy use...

It used to be that a republican is a liberal who has been mugged...

Here we have a republican is a liberal who's chain saw froze up.

67 posted on 05/11/2011 10:51:30 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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62 replies and nobody has taken this to its logical conclusion...steel core is ‘copkiller’ and therefore ‘illegal’ to the peasants...so once ‘toxic’ lead is eliminated, we can use airsoft...


69 posted on 05/12/2011 6:10:22 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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At the risk of being redundent to another post, won’t that steel core’s penatrating capability mean round might just pass through our Muslim friends?

How is the transfer of energy from round to Muslim affected?


70 posted on 05/12/2011 6:11:05 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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At the risk of being redundent to another post, won’t that steel core’s penatrating capability mean round might just pass through our Muslim friends?

How is the transfer of energy from round to Muslim affected?


71 posted on 05/12/2011 6:11:09 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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Is the US in its infinate wisdom going to be selling them to our so-called “allies” in this fight and then have them used against US personnel?


72 posted on 05/12/2011 6:13:10 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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"I can't say that it's more lethal than the M855. That depends on how the round hits a target," Woods said, emphasizing that accuracy is paramount. "But what I can say is that you'll see the same effects every time with this round.


74 posted on 05/14/2011 1:26:41 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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