Posted on 05/08/2011 10:38:25 AM PDT by lowbridge
Brooklyn food deliveryman Larry Fox, 20, received a $3 gratuity last month after delivering an $89 lunch order to the wardrobe department of the CBS show "The Good Wife." It was the tip that broke the cyclist's back.
The grub-runner, who has worked for Mexican restaurants and upscale delis in Williamsburg and Greenpoint, launched a Web site called "15 Percent" (15percent.tumblr.com), where he posted receipts, names and addresses in an attempt to "out" the neighborhood's worst tippers.
"It started as a public shaming, to call people out who were bad tippers," said Fox, who is paid $50 for an eight-hour shift, and relies on tips to pay his rent. "It's extremely insulting to get handed one dollar on a $50 order you're delivering. People in new condo buildings tip the worst."
The host site, Tumblr, forced Fox to remove customers' personal information from the site, he said, but Fox said he still posts enough information so bad tippers know they've been exposed.
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And you know what, if I was on the receiving end of such a "conspiracy" I would graciously leave a couple of pennies as a tip. What a bunch of ingrates, they should be happy they even have jobs in such an economy.
I don’t know about everywhere, but it’s interesting that Papa Johns charges a DELIVERY Charge, which is NOT a TIP.
Since Delivery people use their own cars etc. WHAT is that Charge for?
I agree with him, if you can’t afford a tip, you should be cooking your own meals.
In Europe, a 15% (or now, 20%) “service charge” is included in the bill. You get charged this regardless of how well you are “served”. I prefer the US system where you can pay your server (= “tip”) based on the level of service. I can (and have)left my server one penny (to show that I was not at all pleased with the service). Servers (bartenders and others) generally get paid minimum wage. If that’s what they deserve because they give you crappy service don’t tip them.
Do yourself and restaurant employees a favor, then, and don't. Don't order delivery food, either.
Waiting tables is a nasty, stressful and thankless job. If you've ever worked at restaurant, you'd know this. Of course, if you'd ever worked in a restaurant, you wouldn't call their employees whiners.
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As I understand it, the IRS pretty much tells you what tips you earned and you pay tax on it whether you got them or not.
Can’t figure out how much to tip? Take the tax amount and double it. It’s close to 15 percent. Wait staff works for the tips, not the minute server’s wage the are paid.
This has been and always shall be a major pet peeve of mine. No, I have not worked as a waitress but many friends have. I also watch when I am out for a meal. The behavior of some diners makes me profoundly ashamed. I was once out where a table close to me allowed their two small chldren to trash the table AND throw half their meals under the table. The parents of these cretins had the waitress coming and going at the table constantly, then left MAYBE $5 as a tip. I felt so bad for the waitress, I called her over to my table and gave her $20. I was just so livid at te behavior of those animals. I don’t eat out much simply because I can no longer afford it like I could in he past. I do, however, factor in a sizeable tip when I am able to dine out on special occasions.
I also tip my pizza delivery drivers well because I live out in the country. In fact, I have to meet the drivers at a church parking lot because my house is not in the delivery range. Maybe I overtipped, but $20 on a $50 order seems fair when I don’t have to get dressed beyond my pj’s AND I don’t have make the drive into town. I also know that my tip doesn’t make up for all the deliveries where they only get a buck or two. I do what I can, when I can. Call me insane or stupid, I don’t see myself changing.
You're a real class act, aren't you?
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You either made this story up or your an a$$.
Q-”Do you plan to waitress for the rest of your life?”
A-”Did you come here for breakfast or to disparage my job and make yourself feel superior?”
Why? When we go out we do tip well when it is merited. But I do not appreciate someone attempting to "shame" me for leaving a justifiably bad tip. If the service sucks, you will get a lousy tip, I promise. But if the service is great, I will tip generously (over 20%). As we have young children with us when we dine, I find myself routinely giving out 25% (or whatever the next higher dollar is) in tips because the waitstaff does a lot of cleaning up during and after our meal.
Waiting tables is a nasty, stressful and thankless job.
Again, if someone don't like the job, then he can get another one that isn't so nasty, stressful or thankless. In the mean time, he should do the job he signed up to do. Everyone gripes about work, so I don't see why people in this job who gripe are any different than those in other lines of work who gripe.
Of course, if you'd ever worked in a restaurant, you wouldn't call their employees whiners.
Even the ones who whine?
What if she did want to “waitress for the rest of her life?” There’s nothing wrong with that, and it’s certainly none of your business.
Then you had no complaints about her service, yet you stiffed her because she didn’t vote your way. Which was also none of your business.
And I’ll pass on your advice to “give it a try.” I’m neither a bully nor a coward. I’ll bet you your sixty-eight cents you wouldn’t treat a male waiter that way, by the way. Your answer might have been a punch in the nose. I wish she had handed your sixty-eight cents back to you, or better yet, dropped it on the floor in front of you. But that would have cost her her job But you knew that — you’re obviously the type that only goes after people who can’t fight back.
You’re just a cheapskate looking for an excuse not to tip.
Yes I am. Why should I tip well if the service sucks? Are you suggesting that waitstaff who not only do their job badly, but purposefully see to do said job badly, should get a tip?
In the original scenario of one waiter telling his coworkers of the bad tipper... how do the other waiters know that said bad tip wasn't merited? Of course there are people who always tip badly no matter what, but "attacking" a repeat customer (always a precious resource in any business) is a stupid thing for these people to do, and the owner of the establishment would be wise to fire any and all waitstaff who disrespects his money customer in such a way.
You go out to dinner and then have to pay someone to bring your dish to you...
That’s bad enough...The wait person spends a total of 3-6 minutes at your table taking your order and delivering your food...
We’re talking bottom of the bucket skills here...
And why does a person expect a percentage of the bill??? Why should I pay a person more to deliver a lobster than a hamburger steak???
Seems to me if you tip a delivery driver the same as you tip your waitstaff for an hour of service or more you either tip too much or your screwing over one of them.
In a restaurant I generally tip between 20 and 25% but for food delivery I tend to tip around 10% or so. Like someone else said here, there is little difference in the effort to deliver a $10 order and a $100 order. On a $10 order I tip $2-3 and on a $100 order I probably would tip around $5. I tip more when the weather is bad or there is some other reason that makes the delivery more effort.
In a restaurant there is a significant difference in the service provided versus a delivery driver.
I would have told you to cram the change with walnuts...
I did that a couple of times...a huge party would leave me a small mound of change after running me ragged and monopolizing my time. I’d wander out to the front door and pitch the change into the parking lot in their general direction.
It was quite cathartic...
Well said.
This is true. I always make that distinction, unless the meal sucks, and the waitress doesn't seem sufficiently motivated to 'make it right'. I also tip on the PRE-tax amount of the check. :p
In a restaurant there is a significant difference in the service provided versus a delivery driver.”
Unless that delivery driver happens to be my grandson. He lives in tiny farm area and is putting himself through school. Job market is almost non-existent and so he works as many part-time jobs as he can find. Latest one was as a pizza delivery driver. The defined delivery area is within that phone exchange and is huge and quite rural. Owner pays him $2.00 per delivery and he gets to keep tips. Last week he went through two tanks of $3.89/gallon gas and earned $25.00 in tips, barely enough to pay for one tank of gas. After he and I had an economics session on the phone he quit the job. So IMO, delivery is not just about service, it is about convenience for the person who is requesting the delivery. Not all situations are equal.
Good post. I’m sure the girl thought: “Wow, what a wonderful Christian gentleman. Maybe I should rethink my kneejerk liberalism, because if all conservatives are as nice as that guy, I might be missing something.”
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