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Is The End Nigh? We'll Know Soon Enough (World to end May 21)
NPR ^ | May 7, 2011 | Barbara Bradley Hagerty

Posted on 05/07/2011 9:27:55 PM PDT by tlb

May 21, "starting in the Pacific Rim at around the 6 p.m. local time hour, in each time zone, there will be a great earthquake,". The true Christian believers will be "raptured": They'll fly upward to heaven.

"and on top of all that, there's no more salvation at that point. 153 days later that the entire universe and planet Earth will be destroyed."

"I no longer think about 401(k)s and retirement," he says. "I'm just a lot less stressed, and in a way I'm more carefree."

Brown is married with several young children, and none of them shares his beliefs. It's caused a rift with his wife — but he says that, too, was predicted in the Bible.

But it appears that many became believers in 2009 after turning on Family Radio, a Christian network. Camping's predictions have inspired other groups to rally behind the May 21 date. People have quit their jobs and left their families to get the message out.

"Knowing the date of the end of the world changes all your future plans," says Adrienne Martinez.

She thought she'd go to medical school, until she began tuning in to Family Radio. She and her husband decided they wanted to spend their remaining time with their infant daughter.

"Why are we going to work for more money? "

"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," Adrienne adds.

I've asked a dozen of Camping's followers the same question. Everyone said even entertaining the possibility that May 21 would come and go without event is an offense to God. They all hope they'll be raptured.

"If I'm here on May 22, and I wake up, I'm going to be in hell," says Brown

On the other hand, he will presumably have lots of company.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


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To: marbren
He can handle it because He has ordained it. Yes, these are trying times for all.

As a Christian who is weary of this body of sin and death, this wretched flesh, I hope Mr. Camping is right. Would that it were so, that the Lord would return and right every wrong, dry every tear, and that we would begin our journey into eternity in this way.

He probably is not right, however, because most other scholars (and like it or not he is a scholar regardless of his formal credentials) are not right.

My yearning refrain will remain, "Come quickly, Lord Jesus."

301 posted on 05/19/2011 1:16:49 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
I agree

Revelation 22:20 (King James Version) He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

BTW I believe Camping is a victim of common sense and replacement theology.

302 posted on 05/19/2011 6:17:20 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Two Kids' Dad

“Sorry, but even though you’ve lived an exemplary life you’ve drawn a short straw and will have to be... Left Behind!”

Exemplary lives only exist on our curved grade scale. They do not exist in the ultimate reality where God is perfect, and He sets the standard.

In our hearts we know we are at war with that standard, and we require reconciliation with the One Who made us and Whom we have offended. Enter the Good News - He came Himself to make it right by offering Himself as the perfect substitute to take the punishment we deserve.

And let me ask you this - say you had the opportunity to be Adam, and you were perfect. Do you think you would fare better than he did?


303 posted on 05/19/2011 6:28:24 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Quix

His name is Harold, which, making the case for him, would be that he is a Herald, and I think that is interesting.


304 posted on 05/19/2011 6:33:36 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette
Did Augustine believe in replacement theology because of common sense?
305 posted on 05/19/2011 6:48:40 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren

“Did Augustine believe in replacement theology because of common sense?”

Objection. Calls for speculation on the part of the witness.

(Sustained)


306 posted on 05/19/2011 7:39:27 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette
Objection. Calls for speculation on the part of the witness. (Sustained)

lol OK,your honor, I'll rephrase my question:Did Augustine believe in replacement theology? If so Why?

307 posted on 05/19/2011 7:50:11 AM PDT by marbren
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To: esquirette

HMMM

I try to be

confessed up, repented up, forgiving up, prayed up, ready to go up daily.

Any time the first elevator !UP! leaves, I want on it.


308 posted on 05/19/2011 7:53:45 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Quix, do you thing Camping is a victim of replacement theology lite?
309 posted on 05/19/2011 7:55:43 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren; Quix

thing=think


310 posted on 05/19/2011 7:56:19 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren

imho, he sure hasn’t been listening to HOLY SPIRIT.

I forget where he is on Israel. Could be.


311 posted on 05/19/2011 8:06:11 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: marbren

I have no idea, and I do not endorse Harold Camping’s opinions. I just think it is interesting that his name is Harold and that is a synonym for herald. I have practiced a long time, and it is always interesting to note the names of the clients in comparison with some aspect of their character or calling.

At the same time, I am a fan of Augustine, and believe I should keep my head down on this one, for there might be incoming.


312 posted on 05/19/2011 8:08:25 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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313 posted on 05/19/2011 8:10:31 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Quix

Agreed. Camping could be a false herald, but he is announcing all the same.

Any idea why he thinks the Flood happened in 4990 BC? I cannot seem to find anything on that outside of his calculation of the May 21 date.


314 posted on 05/19/2011 8:11:32 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Quix
That is my point, Israel is key to understanding holistic Bible prophecy.

Replacement theology is the lie that Satan uses to muddy this up.

Also, the only way truth is revealed is through faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ. Man in his flesh and the world is antisemitic because satan is.

This IMHO Is my conviction. All you replacement theology people can flame away all you want.

315 posted on 05/19/2011 8:14:39 AM PDT by marbren
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To: esquirette
At the same time, I am a fan of Augustine, and believe I should keep my head down on this one, for there might be incoming.

I understand, I also am a small fan and a big fan of Martin Luther. I do have my own convictions gained through my experiences. Martin Luther was wrong about replacement theology.

316 posted on 05/19/2011 8:19:24 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren

“Martin Luther was wrong about replacement theology.”

Would ‘replacement theology’ be the same as preterism? I do not know what Luther said on this but as a chief reformer, I would suspect he was at least semi-preterist. They laid the foundation for domininionism, I think.

If Obambi makes his imminent speech on the Middle East suggesting a 7 year moratorium on Israeli building or something like that, I am going to be more convinced than I am now that Camping is on to something.....


317 posted on 05/19/2011 8:31:48 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette
Martin Luther was a catholic monk who wanted to reform the church which got its replacement theology from Origen and Augustine when they spiritualized and muddied up God's word .

Martin probably did not study the issue because he did not live in the end times we find ourselves in. He was antisemitic when he died.

318 posted on 05/19/2011 9:58:02 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren

Luther was concerned with other issues, no doubt, like indulgences, and translating the New Testament, and avoiding being killed by Leo X. Therefore, it seems that what he did not deal with, he was not called to deal with, and did not. I did not know if he had a position on prophecy or not, and it does not seem like he did, save for leaving that part of Catholicism alone.

It does seem like things are progressing pretty fast, though, as I said, I am Reformed, and tend toward semi-preterism. Prophecies can be fulfilled more than once.


319 posted on 05/19/2011 10:02:31 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette

I tend to be Lutheran, where I started, I asked the Holy Spirit for the truth about Israel around 1985. I used to be antisemitic. The revelations have been wonderful. The institutional Lutheran and mainline churches that teach replacement theology do not have a clue about the times we are in. Preterism and partial preterism adore replacement theology. Normalcy bias rules.


320 posted on 05/19/2011 11:13:36 AM PDT by marbren
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