Posted on 05/07/2011 9:27:55 PM PDT by tlb
May 21, "starting in the Pacific Rim at around the 6 p.m. local time hour, in each time zone, there will be a great earthquake,". The true Christian believers will be "raptured": They'll fly upward to heaven.
"and on top of all that, there's no more salvation at that point. 153 days later that the entire universe and planet Earth will be destroyed."
"I no longer think about 401(k)s and retirement," he says. "I'm just a lot less stressed, and in a way I'm more carefree."
Brown is married with several young children, and none of them shares his beliefs. It's caused a rift with his wife — but he says that, too, was predicted in the Bible.
But it appears that many became believers in 2009 after turning on Family Radio, a Christian network. Camping's predictions have inspired other groups to rally behind the May 21 date. People have quit their jobs and left their families to get the message out.
"Knowing the date of the end of the world changes all your future plans," says Adrienne Martinez.
She thought she'd go to medical school, until she began tuning in to Family Radio. She and her husband decided they wanted to spend their remaining time with their infant daughter.
"Why are we going to work for more money? "
"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," Adrienne adds.
I've asked a dozen of Camping's followers the same question. Everyone said even entertaining the possibility that May 21 would come and go without event is an offense to God. They all hope they'll be raptured.
"If I'm here on May 22, and I wake up, I'm going to be in hell," says Brown
On the other hand, he will presumably have lots of company.
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As a Christian who is weary of this body of sin and death, this wretched flesh, I hope Mr. Camping is right. Would that it were so, that the Lord would return and right every wrong, dry every tear, and that we would begin our journey into eternity in this way.
He probably is not right, however, because most other scholars (and like it or not he is a scholar regardless of his formal credentials) are not right.
My yearning refrain will remain, "Come quickly, Lord Jesus."
Revelation 22:20 (King James Version) He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
BTW I believe Camping is a victim of common sense and replacement theology.
“Sorry, but even though you’ve lived an exemplary life you’ve drawn a short straw and will have to be... Left Behind!”
Exemplary lives only exist on our curved grade scale. They do not exist in the ultimate reality where God is perfect, and He sets the standard.
In our hearts we know we are at war with that standard, and we require reconciliation with the One Who made us and Whom we have offended. Enter the Good News - He came Himself to make it right by offering Himself as the perfect substitute to take the punishment we deserve.
And let me ask you this - say you had the opportunity to be Adam, and you were perfect. Do you think you would fare better than he did?
His name is Harold, which, making the case for him, would be that he is a Herald, and I think that is interesting.
“Did Augustine believe in replacement theology because of common sense?”
Objection. Calls for speculation on the part of the witness.
(Sustained)
lol OK,your honor, I'll rephrase my question:Did Augustine believe in replacement theology? If so Why?
HMMM
I try to be
confessed up, repented up, forgiving up, prayed up, ready to go up daily.
Any time the first elevator !UP! leaves, I want on it.
thing=think
imho, he sure hasn’t been listening to HOLY SPIRIT.
I forget where he is on Israel. Could be.
I have no idea, and I do not endorse Harold Camping’s opinions. I just think it is interesting that his name is Harold and that is a synonym for herald. I have practiced a long time, and it is always interesting to note the names of the clients in comparison with some aspect of their character or calling.
At the same time, I am a fan of Augustine, and believe I should keep my head down on this one, for there might be incoming.
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Agreed. Camping could be a false herald, but he is announcing all the same.
Any idea why he thinks the Flood happened in 4990 BC? I cannot seem to find anything on that outside of his calculation of the May 21 date.
Replacement theology is the lie that Satan uses to muddy this up.
Also, the only way truth is revealed is through faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ. Man in his flesh and the world is antisemitic because satan is.
This IMHO Is my conviction. All you replacement theology people can flame away all you want.
I understand, I also am a small fan and a big fan of Martin Luther. I do have my own convictions gained through my experiences. Martin Luther was wrong about replacement theology.
“Martin Luther was wrong about replacement theology.”
Would ‘replacement theology’ be the same as preterism? I do not know what Luther said on this but as a chief reformer, I would suspect he was at least semi-preterist. They laid the foundation for domininionism, I think.
If Obambi makes his imminent speech on the Middle East suggesting a 7 year moratorium on Israeli building or something like that, I am going to be more convinced than I am now that Camping is on to something.....
Martin probably did not study the issue because he did not live in the end times we find ourselves in. He was antisemitic when he died.
Luther was concerned with other issues, no doubt, like indulgences, and translating the New Testament, and avoiding being killed by Leo X. Therefore, it seems that what he did not deal with, he was not called to deal with, and did not. I did not know if he had a position on prophecy or not, and it does not seem like he did, save for leaving that part of Catholicism alone.
It does seem like things are progressing pretty fast, though, as I said, I am Reformed, and tend toward semi-preterism. Prophecies can be fulfilled more than once.
I tend to be Lutheran, where I started, I asked the Holy Spirit for the truth about Israel around 1985. I used to be antisemitic. The revelations have been wonderful. The institutional Lutheran and mainline churches that teach replacement theology do not have a clue about the times we are in. Preterism and partial preterism adore replacement theology. Normalcy bias rules.
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