Posted on 05/03/2011 11:57:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
As the cost of a college education skyrockets, some parents may be wondering about the value of going to college — especially with the examples of billionaire Harvard drop-outs Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg front and center.
The price tag for four years at a public university averages about $35,000, according to The College Board. A private college or university can cost about $120,000. So what’s the best return on investment, especially if a student is taking out loans to help finance college? Part of the answer lies in selecting a major that offers the opportunity to quickly move into a career with a good salary.
According to the annual salary survey from the National Association of Colleges and Employers, the average salary offer to all class of 2011 graduates now stands at $50,462, up 5.9 percent over the overall average of $47,673 to class of 2010 graduates.
And among those graduates, the ones most likely to see the biggest salary opportunities are those with engineering majors. The bachelor degree graduates likely to receive the most job offers? Accounting positions, whether in the public or private sectors, make up two of the top three spots on that list.
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I get sick and tired of people bad mouthing all public schools and then lumping colleges and universities in.
Children are often a reflection of their parents. You get back what you put in. With education you have teacher’s, parents and students, they need to work together.
In my town, the starting teacher salary for all the school districts is in the low 40’s plus benefits for an elementary school teacher. The local university pumps out 500 elementary ed majors every year who compete for about 200 job openings. Those lucky enough to know somebody to get them an in get paid well over $33K. Those who do not benefit from the rampant nepotism become teachers aides at 10 to 12 bucks an hour plus benefits. Those that can’t get an aide position substitute for around $90 a day when they can get the work. Combine all that with the people who give up on education and take jobs in retail and it becomes very easy to have overpaid teachers AND an average starting salary of $33k
What they don’t mention is that the %33,000 teacher works only 9 months of the year, likely has free health insurance, and will be getting raises of 5% or more each year just for sticking around.
%33,000 = $33,000 (DUH)
>> I get sick and tired of people bad mouthing all public schools and then lumping colleges and universities in.
That’s fine.
Of course, “badmouthing all public schools and colleges and universities” is not even CLOSE to the intent or substance of my comment, but I guess to the guy with a hammer, pretty much everything looks like a nail.
That is highly impressive.
Isn’t Belladonna a poison?
That a “property” from belladonna is needed to make drugs is interesting.
PhDs often make less not more, but research work is more fun so they are willing to take the pay cut.
No, you just called people’s children ‘useless spawn’, because they wanted to study something that YOU didn’t approve of.
The price tag for four years at a public university averages about $35,000,
University of IL is nearly $30,000/year for in-state students, with room and board being only $10,000 of the $30,000/year.
http://www.osfa.uiuc.edu/cost/undergrad/res_1112.html
Figure out the pay per day worked in a year.......
Impressive! You should be proud :)
I’ve got some bad news for you.
It is an indisputable fact that there are quite a few useless spawn drifting around out there. And a fair number of them are enrolled in institutions of higher education.
Don’t shoot me, I didn’t breed ‘em. I’m just the messenger.
I *never* said anyone’s spawn is useless solely *because* of what they study. I DID say that the useless spawn, the ones that go to college primarily to socialize, tend to gravitate to empty degree programs like the ones mentioned. And I stand by it.
Maybe YOU should go back to school and take some remedial “reading for meaning” courses. You might find them to be helpful.
Still, it is kind of scary. :)
Yep, he likes the research and that’s why he is going for the PhD.
We tried early on to explain how it isn’t much fun going to work and doing a job that you hate. That its much better to have a job that you enjoy. We were lucky that he found his interest early.
The biggest problem for students entering college is choosing that career. What is in demand now, may not be in demand 4 years from now.
Really?
I was talking about PoliSci, journalism, black history, wymyn’s studies, “social work”, and all that other crapola that passes for a “degree program” these days.
20 posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:00:29 PM by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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Maybe YOU should go back to school and take some remedial “reading for meaning” courses. You might find them to be helpful.
My reading comprehension is just fine! You might want to stop before you did that hole any deeper.
I need a GF/wife
>> Really?
Yes! Really.
I sometimes wonder if part of the reason so many kids in school fail is because they are having things forced on them. Some students are not math genius' and never will be. Why not just make sure they can do the basic things to survive instead of forcing them to take algebra which they may never use.
Let those that want and have the ability to learn algebra, geometry and physics do so, but let those that can't handle it alone. All they are really going to need is to be able to make sure their change is correct, balance a checkbook and try to make ends meet.
I know kids that should have graduated, but instead they are what schools now call 'super seniors'. Still going to school because they need those credits. They may never grasp algebra I and II. They can go until they are 21. Is it really worth wasting those year, and what if they never do 'get it'?
I just think there are other studies that might better serve some of these kids than forcing certain studies onto them. jmo
You’ve got so many more smart grads with chem e or computer sci degree than there are with social work or ed majors that you’d have to control for the caliber of student before such comparisons were really useful. Also, you’d want to look over time. (Hint: a smart philosophy major at a state school will likely gain in income over time as he applies his smarts to whatever his endeavor.)
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