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WASHINGTON SHIFTS FIFTY OIL TANKERS TO BRITISH SERVICE (5/2/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/2/41 | Turner Catledge, Craig Thompson, Walter Duranty, Richard D. McMillan, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 05/02/2011 5:30:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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To: Larry381
I see our friend Walter Duranty is making sure his friends in Moscow have their point of view heard on the Times front page.

It's not page 1 but it is offered as a news item. Wow. What a piece of work this guy is.

I believe there is just about as much chance of turning Soviet Russia against Germany, or even detaching Russia from Germany, as of frying snowballs.

You want fries with that snowball, Walter? Little does he realize that "the coming dicker with the Germans" will be the largest and most brutal conflict in the history of so-called civilization.

21 posted on 05/02/2011 1:31:15 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I see our friend Walter Duranty is making sure his friends in Moscow have their point of view heard on the Times front page.

It's not page 1 but it is offered as a news item. Wow. What a piece of work this guy is.

I believe there is just about as much chance of turning Soviet Russia against Germany, or even detaching Russia from Germany, as of frying snowballs.
You want fries with that snowball, Walter? Little does he realize that "the coming dicker with the Germans" will be the largest and most brutal conflict in the history of so-called civilization.

It's almost as if old Walt was sitting in Uncle Joe's Kremlin apartment and typing away while the two of them laughed their asses off over a vodka and Joseph Vissarionovich fed him a few commie zingers to liven up "their" column.

Stalin definitely got his moneys worth

22 posted on 05/02/2011 8:29:50 PM PDT by Larry381 (If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

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23 posted on 05/02/2011 8:33:41 PM PDT by doubled (I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame you.)
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To: henkster
in Hoeppner’s case you have to square their participation in the plot with the issuance of this order, and that’s a tough task.

It is difficult. My personal impression is that Hoeppner's involvement in the July 20th plot was more of a military decision on his part than a moral one. I think several of the conspirators were more concerned with their desire to end the war before they became a conquered nation than they were worried about the atrotious conduct by Germany in their eastern offensive. Like you said, many in the army leadership on that front went out of their way to profess ignorance of what they would call SS actions.

24 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:49 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: Larry381

I should have pinged you to my comment on post 24.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:57 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: tcrlaf
"Somewhere around today, my grandfather and his heavy bridging pioneer company have their equipment loaded in to rail cars, and are heading for Koenigsburg, East Prussia"

A little more than a year later my father was part of Army Group Nord. He never talks about those days. Presently lives in Fishers IN and despite war wounds and construction acidents, is still active. In addition, my mother's brother was a survivor of Stalingrad and is buried north of Castleton IN. His uncles (my great uncles) didn't survive that battle.

When all the relatives gathered on Sundays, I used to be fascinated by their conversations (all in German).

26 posted on 05/05/2011 10:47:30 AM PDT by FW190
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To: FW190

My Grandfather never spoke of it much, except for drips and drabs, until he was diagnosed with cancer.

Before he died in 1981, he donated his papers and a couple of films to the Smithsonian. Some of that film footage, taken near Staraya Russa, was used in the PBS series “World War 2”.

He’s buried near Batesville, with his two brothers, that came over in the 30’s, fleeing the NAZI’s.


27 posted on 05/05/2011 10:55:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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