Posted on 04/28/2011 4:34:08 PM PDT by rocco55
“The 14th Amendment was intended to deal specifically with citizenship status of former slaves in the aftermath of their emancipation.”
Well, that sure in curious view of the 14th Amendment.
In other words, you are saying that the Due Process Clause only applied to former slaves?
It seems you also believe that the Equal Protection Clause only applied to former slaves?
And thus you must also believe that the Citizenship Clause only applied to former slaves and that that all African Americans born after the passage of the 14th Amendment are bound by Dred Scott?
If you're born in the U.S., you're a natural born citizen rather than a naturalized
“Isn’t it more plausible to argue that the first sentence of the 14th Amendment was intended to ensure that the citizenship rights of former slaves were the same as everyone else?”
Not sure I would go that far, as Hotlanta Mike, who I have no reason to be believe is not one of the nation’s premier Constitutional scholars, has stated the the 14th Amendment “specifically” applied only to former slaves and no one else.
So therefore, all the people in the United States who are alive today and who were not held in slavery prior to emancipation are not covered by the 14th Amendment.
“you nutjob birthers”
I’d consider that one a fact - so sue me. Are you a nutjob?
I've been away for a long while and, having returned - likely only momentarily - I'm amazed at the level of childish behavior displayed here by, presumably, adults.
I don’t have to wager anything. The issue isn’t ‘dead.’ Whether or not congress grows a pair and impeaches him over any of a number of issues (which ARE open and shut) is not the point. The BC issue is an albatross of his own making and we’ll keep it hung around his neck whether or not the rest of the conservative wing like it. Freedom of thought and all that ya know...
The ‘birther’ issue never was ‘solely’ about where he was born or his father’s place of birth for that matter. It includes the sealing of all his other records from the public as well. They (these issues) are all tied together. If nothing else, it keeps people wondering and asking the questions the MSM and congress refuse to ask. If they keep asking them, and they are, the issue doesn’t go away and that means fewer votes for him in 2012. A ‘win’ for us either way.
And again, we’ll keep it hung around his neck whether or not the rest of the conservative wing like it. We don’t particularly care. It’s not like we need, or want anyone’s permission. You do your thing, we’ll do ours. We know how to walk and chew gum simultaneously.
For you people I guess. But to anyone that had a shred of doubt on the left - yep it sho' is.
The BC issue is an albatross of his own making and well keep it hung around his neck
How exactly? So far he's made you people look like idiots. You've been railing for two years about there is no BC. Now he shows it and .... you moved the goal post - giving the left the justification to call you right-wing morons and the right the justification to call you useful idiots of the left.
If they keep asking them, and they are, the issue doesnt go away and that means fewer votes for him in 2012. A win for us either way.
Yup, it happened exactly that way when those questions were asked before he was elected the first time too.
The issue was dead in 2008. Now you're just aiding and abetting the left.
I know you are but what am I?
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