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obama sr.'s age on BC contradicts his alien registration card. Was he illegal alien? [vanity]
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Posted on 04/28/2011 2:16:01 PM PDT by matt1234

The long form birth certificate says obama sr. is 25. His alien registration card at the external link (& shown below) gives his date of birth as 6-18-34. If true, he would have been 27 not 25 when obama jr. was born. Wikipedia lists 1936 as obama sr.'s birth year. If obama sr. falsified his alien registration card, he might have been an illegal alien when obama jr. was conceived and born. On the other hand, the birth certificate might be inaccurate. In any case, one of the two documents contains false information.


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To: matt1234
This would mesh with the evidence that Obama was actually born in Kenya two years earlier than the birth certificate says. His grandmother, who worked at the Hawaii bureau of records snagged the SSN of a dead Connecticut guy and created a birth certificate for him when Stanley Ann brought him there in 1961, when he was already two years old.

His father really was 25 when he was born. It's just that the birth-certificate was created two years after he was born.

41 posted on 04/28/2011 4:23:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

Check out post #1


42 posted on 04/28/2011 4:26:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: RWGinger
Baldilocks on why Obama hates the UK.

She writes about the students from Kenya brought to the US here...and notes her father says he was in the same plane with Obama's father (both were Luo, so presumably would notice each other)

and she notes the connection with President Kennedy.

Baldilocks is a vet, and a bit conservative, so don't pick a fight with her.

43 posted on 04/28/2011 5:06:23 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: thouworm
Reviewing the documents, it appears that 1934 appears the most times and when you look at the documents that Obama prepared himself, that remains the case. I wonder if he tried to appear younger after he had been in the states awhile. Still, it is a fact that there are two different years of birth--both put forward by Obama Sr.

1934 as his birth year:

1936 as his birthdate


44 posted on 04/28/2011 5:35:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Myrddin
In 1954, after attending the Maseno National School, Obama Sr. was married for the first time at the age of eighteen, to Kezia Aoko in a tribal ceremony. They had two children, Malik (aka Roy) and Auma, during the early years of their marriage. Later, while Obama Sr. was married to his third wife, Kezia had Abo and Bernard, thought to be with Obama Sr., but in Dreams from My Father, it is stated that the Obama family question whether Abo and Bernard are his biological sons.
45 posted on 04/28/2011 5:38:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

That one document near the bottom has a line for “children”. It says “Roy Obama”. Who is “Roy Obama”?


46 posted on 04/28/2011 5:51:56 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

looks like Ray obama to me


47 posted on 04/28/2011 6:30:19 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: boop
MALIK ABONGO (ROY) OBAMA

Malik Abongo (Roy) on left, unknown women and children, KEZIA, zero, BERNARD (lives in the UK) Mark Ndesandjo and Joseph Ndesandjo.

48 posted on 04/28/2011 6:57:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: chicken head

OK, Ray. Who is Roy/Ray Obama? Was this another nickname for the POTUS? If not, why wouldn’t he list Obama also as his child?


49 posted on 04/28/2011 6:58:15 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

OK, Roy. So why didn’t Obama Sr. list Obama Jr. also?


50 posted on 04/28/2011 7:01:40 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

Something ain’t “right”. I thought perhaps it was prior to The One’s birth. But the document was signed in August 1962, when Obama Jr. would have been a year old. I find it very difficult to believe he “forgot” his other son and only listed Roy.


51 posted on 04/28/2011 7:06:13 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Fred Nerks

Another tidbit, is he writes “married” but leaves spouse’s name and address blank. If he was so desperate to stay on a student visa, why the sloppiness in filling out this form?


52 posted on 04/28/2011 7:10:08 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: kabar

“Still, it is a fact that there are two different years of birth—both put forward by Obama Sr.”

I went through doc again looking for that one ratio -— 1934 vs 1936. My rough calculation is out of apprx 20 mentions of birthdate 4 are 1936 and the rest are 1934.

The least we can say about the anomaly is that BHO,Sr permitted it. What the pattern was and to what extent and motive of advantage he “allowed” these fraudulent statements, is, for me, difficult to say without hard copy of FOIA doc in hand.


53 posted on 04/28/2011 7:19:13 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: boop

Liars, all of them. SAD has two different YEARS for marriage dates on her passport data for her marriage to Soetoro.
The documents for the kenyan show he was in the PHILLIPINES and HIS ‘wife’ was 27 years of age.
A foreign student on the one hand, and a citizen of the US on the other hand...planning to WORK at the University of Washington.
Make head nor tail of it all, I certainly cannot. The more we see, the worse it all gets.


54 posted on 04/28/2011 7:30:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Hmm... I know Freepers have proven Obama Sr.'s marriage to SAD. When did they divorce?

The progression of the request to stay in the country goes:

1962: Married, no wife listed or named. Children: Roy Obama only.

1963: No mention of married or any children, but pencil marks with question marks above these boxes.

1964: married, written in Obama Sr.'s hand. Ann Obama written in Sr.'s hand. "Separated 2 mo." written in different handwriting. So Sr. and Ann separated in February 1964. Under children, Roy has disappeared, and someone else has written in "Barack Obama 2nd. USC"

55 posted on 04/28/2011 7:55:48 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

ISN’T THAT CLASSIC!

I am going to transfer your comment to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts

A research thread - for the record. I’ll ping you.


56 posted on 04/28/2011 8:04:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Didn’t Obama’s website during the primaries show his age as two years older at one point, and then it was changed later ?

Maybe the answer is that Hawaii was not a state on Aug 4, 1959. It became a state on Aug 21st, 1959. What effect would it have on Obama’s birth if he was born in a Territory rather than a full State ? Maybe the grandmother just wanted to play it “safe” by bumping the year up to after statehood ?


57 posted on 04/28/2011 8:10:58 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, I’ll check back later. I have NO idea if it means anything, but I thought it was odd. But what about Obama’s life story isn’t?


58 posted on 04/28/2011 8:21:16 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

See my post #45.


59 posted on 04/28/2011 9:19:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: thouworm
The least we can say about the anomaly is that BHO,Sr permitted it.

He not only permitted it--he initiated it. The documents that he had to fill out listing his birth date are instructive. This isn't a matter of a typo or the perpetuation of a mistake by a government bureaucracy.

If I had to choose, I would say that he was born in 1934. The most telling documents in that regard were 3 and 9 that issued him visas. Obama Sr. had to show his passport and other documents to receive a visa. Aside from the age on Obama's long form BC (25) in 1961, the earliest he claimed to be born in 1936 was in August 1962.

60 posted on 04/28/2011 9:35:12 PM PDT by kabar
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