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Weak Arguments That Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate Is Fake
Jeff Winston | 4/28/2011 | Jeff Winston

Posted on 04/27/2011 11:23:48 PM PDT by Jeff Winston

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To: Jeff Winston

I didn’t get to into the BC but a question that continues to give me pause...why did he spend millions trying to hide it - or did he really...spend millions on it?


101 posted on 04/28/2011 3:24:31 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Jeff Winston
Thanks for the list, well-compiled and thoughtful. For my money, the remaining doubters so far are reminiscent of the conspiracy buffs that pour over each frame of the JFK zapruder tape, arguing that a pixel here or there proves without a doubt that a conspiracy was involved, never mind the insurmountable wall of logical evidence that belies their implied theory.

It's still early in the game and maybe something will come of this, but so far I'm unimpressed. There's no shortage of real, provable transgressions in the One's administration, and I hope Freepers will start to focus on them rather than chasing their tail of this dead horse. Just my 2 cents.

102 posted on 04/28/2011 3:28:40 AM PDT by RDAardvark (Palin 2012. No wait, Trump 2012. Or Ron Paul. Heck I don't care, anybody but this guy!)
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To: RDAardvark

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/whats-up-with-the-white-space-around-the-letters/

I know I’m just a hack, but can you take a look at this comparison, at this link, and let me know how this happens? It’s been told to me that there is an explanation.


103 posted on 04/28/2011 3:31:37 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: SF_Redux

the bc is not ever going to be proven, enough said on that
but when you add that to ALL the other questions normally ask of any applicant.. he stinks to high heaven

where are:

Your Occidental College records
Your Columbia College records
Your Columbia Thesis paper
Your Harvard College records
Your Selective Service Registration
Your medical records
Your Illinois State Senate records
Your Illinois State Senate schedule
Your Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
Your University of Chicago scholarly articles

... this imposters time is up, so is the time of those who helped him get and stay there


104 posted on 04/28/2011 3:40:11 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: RDAardvark

This is just a repost, and I’m looking for some solid feeback whether it’s yea or nay.

This is my personal problem with the certificate simply on a cursory visual inspection.
It appears that where Obama’s name is typed, it appears to be as if there was a new ribbon used in the typerwriter, where as the rest appears as a fuzzier imprinting of the typewriter letter heads. Was it the habit to prefill the forms less the particulars back then? Not sure myself.

http://www.foxnews.com/interactive/politics/2011/04/27/obamas-birth-certificate/

Look at all of the capitol “H”’s, there is a difference between the separation of the goal post of the H compared to other H’s, particularly those involving his information and those that could apply to anyone.

Whether there is a light hit or a heavy, his info is sharper with a more distinct separation.

Let me know if you disagree.


105 posted on 04/28/2011 3:43:26 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Vendome

watch what he is doing with his other hand


106 posted on 04/28/2011 3:43:54 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Jeff Winston

I am an unconvinced birther.

The Kenyan Impostor BC scam smells like a rat.


107 posted on 04/28/2011 3:47:51 AM PDT by y6162
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To: SF_Redux

another thing not addressed in OP, why is his father’s race, African, and mother is “ Caucasian “

African is neither color or race


108 posted on 04/28/2011 3:51:15 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Puckster
It doesn't set off the "smell test" as far as I'm concerned. Maybe they filled out the known info first and then the name, perhaps to avoid any last-minute name changes by partents that could've been popular at the time in that neighborhood? I don't claim to know conclusively, but I'm trying to approach it as a swing voter.

Unless there's a convincing slam dunk counter-argument that it's a forgery like Rathergate, we're supplying ammo to the DUmmies by appearing deadset on a false conclusion.

109 posted on 04/28/2011 3:57:57 AM PDT by RDAardvark (Palin 2012. No wait, Trump 2012. Or Ron Paul. Heck I don't care, anybody but this guy!)
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To: RDAardvark
Well, to quote myself, “Was it the habit to prefill the forms less the particulars back then? Not sure myself.”, I have to assume you see what I'm saying, whether or not the smell test passes.

As for the link with the obvious lack of consistency, of the parchment, around the lettering, what say ye.

110 posted on 04/28/2011 4:13:39 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Jeff Winston

Quoting from your first talking point: “Once you’re identified as a liar, there’s no reason for anybody to believe anything else you have to say.”

Obama IS a liar. Would you believe a liar?


111 posted on 04/28/2011 4:15:34 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Jeff Winston

In 1961, the birth certificate numbers were not assigned by the hospitals.

Instead, the numbers were stamped to the birth record by the Hawaii Department of Health at the main office in Honolulu.

This is the only place birth certificate numbers were assigned.

At the last step of the process, the documents were accepted by the registrar general, with the date of registration inserted in box No. 22 on the lower right hand corner of the long-form birth certificate.

The date the birth document was accepted by the registrar general was the date the birth certificate number was stamped on the birth record.

The birth certificate number was stamped on the form by a rubber stamp that automatically increased by one each time a birth certificate was stamped.

The question, therefore, is how was it possible that the Nordyke twins had their birth certificates accepted by the registrar general in Hawaii three days later than the registrar general accepted Obama’s birth certificate, when the twins’ numbers are lower than Obama’s number?

Read more: What is it about twin girls born day after Obama? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292457#ixzz1KoZMdfuU


112 posted on 04/28/2011 4:15:38 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: TigerClaws

There also have been some people allegedly murdered; one being the guy who saw Barry’s passport and supposedly cooperating with the FBI. Also, wasn’t there a girl who knew about forging the bc or passport? Wasn’t she murdered too?

Who knew the Clintons were back.


113 posted on 04/28/2011 4:17:28 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jeff Winston

Good analysis of the situation. I like unemotional, factual analysis of issues. You did an excellent job. I too await Corsi’s book.


114 posted on 04/28/2011 4:17:33 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Jeff Winston

I don’t care if he is legal or not. I hate his guts and always will.


115 posted on 04/28/2011 4:37:03 AM PDT by DeaconRed (All of ZEROS friends are in Low Places. . . . FUBO)
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To: Puckster
In short, I can't rebut it as a layperson. I just don't know, but it makes logical sense as I read it. So I see where you're coming from. But I wouldn't feel confident going to court to unseat an acting Commander in Chief with it, by a long shot.

I guess I'm just waiting on Rathergate here, a slam-dunk soundbyte-ready calamity. I've yet to see that.

116 posted on 04/28/2011 4:45:10 AM PDT by RDAardvark (Palin 2012. No wait, Trump 2012. Or Ron Paul. Heck I don't care, anybody but this guy!)
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To: Jeff Winston

This is excellent. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.


117 posted on 04/28/2011 4:45:33 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: moehoward
If ocr is the reason for the layers, why are then are there no text boxes in the layers. Does not add up. Ocr scanning creates text not image layers.
118 posted on 04/28/2011 4:57:30 AM PDT by Atlantech
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To: TigerClaws
There are still many questions about Obama’s strange family history, travels, school history all the way through HLS I’d like to see examine.

If this guys resume came across my desk, I wouldn't hire him for the mail room! Nothing adds up, and I wouldn't want someone working for me that had a fictional past. This guy is pure fiction. Anybody hiring today would toss this resume into the trash can.

119 posted on 04/28/2011 5:25:17 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: GunRunner
These lame attempts to present it as some kind of forgery are the same kind of armchair quarterbacks who kept insisting that a missile hit the Pentagon.

Honestly, I think they are simply gut-reactions from people who know that the pResident is a serial liar and that nothing that comes from the White House is authentic.

120 posted on 04/28/2011 5:45:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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