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Las Vegas Police beat unarmed man for video taping
Live Leak.com ^ | Apr-23-2011 | DCM Fox

Posted on 04/23/2011 3:02:32 PM PDT by DariusBane

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To: EvasiveManuever
Why I'm not responding to your speculation, hyperbole and assumptions.......

(As time goes a very different picture begins to emerge in these type of cases, almost always!)

"Crooks made headlines in 2002 when he videotaped two Inglewood, Calif., police officers beating a 16-year-old boy. One officer was fired and criminally charged but was not convicted after two trials ended with hung juries. The incident strained race relations in Southern California -- the police officer was white, the teenager black.

Crooks first tried to sell that tape and then declined to give it to prosecutors. He was then jailed on old warrants from unrelated drunken driving and petty theft charges. Civil rights advocates decried it as retribution.

In 2003 he moved to Las Vegas, where he makes a living, among other things, shooting video for nightclubs, and says he kept out of trouble right up until the night he met officer Colling."


The picture of how you want to see this would change as more information on Crooks becomes available, the cops side of the story is told and all of this is put into context.

1. He lied to the officer saying he didn't live there.

2. There is no assumption of innocence, that applies to the courts. A cop often assumes guilt.

3. You have no idea what Crooks was doing outside of camera view etc.

4. The cop had just responded to an incident and was hyped/pumped up and prone to over reacting and here you have Crooks playing his games.

This guy wanted what he got. He wanted his 15 minutes of fame and you're his audience (The useful idiot).

When the dust settles and if you were able to be rational and level headed on this issue you'd see the cop did over react (And he will get punished), but he essentially beat up a jerk that was asking for it. However, issues like this: Rodney King, OJ Simpson...... become part of a much greater argument and are in essence just side bar conversations where people with pre-contrived beliefs and feelings as they pertain to a greater paradigm are looking to affirm themselves and rally around these events.
121 posted on 04/30/2011 9:26:12 AM PDT by Red6
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To: TankerKC

Darius is a liar-

The rest of the same article also goes into describing Crooks past and describes the circumstances of both shootings.

Liars play their game by withholding pertinent information thereby creating a false perception. See my post above which is on Crooks.

Here’s the article he’s probably quoting: http://www.lvrj.com/news/exclusive-police-beating-of-las-vegas-man-caught-on-tape-120509439.html

There is no point in discussing something like this with someone like Darius because he already has his mind made up, is simply looking for his cause (battle cry) and is willing to lie cheat and steal to make his point.


122 posted on 04/30/2011 9:35:09 AM PDT by Red6
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To: TankerKC
However, here's a fact and it holds true for literally more than 90% of these sort of stories. "Wait and see" and eventually the story morphs into something very different than all the ones out there screaming wish it were.

The screamers: ACLU, the ones like Crooks now trying to pound money out of this..... they will get the immediate attention of the media and get their message out first and loudest, but they are often not innocent parties in this sort of stories. Think: OJ, Rodney King as some big name examples.
123 posted on 04/30/2011 9:42:59 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
Darius didn't write that. I quoted the article.

If you have shot two people in 5 1/2 years, you might have a problem. Yes, he was cleared, but what cop in LV doesn't get cleared?

124 posted on 04/30/2011 9:44:38 AM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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125 posted on 04/30/2011 9:54:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TankerKC

Shooting two people in 5 1/2 years means what? It means what you want it to mean.

-It might mean he works a bad area of town.

-It could mean he was on a violent crimes task force.

Do you know?

But I’m sure that hasn’t crossed your mind yet. But in the meantime we’ve learned about how the self proclaimed victim with his camera and blog has done this before, lied to the cop, is now suing for $500,000 and has a lengthy criminal history.............. (lol) As I’ve said, the screamers get their side out first and loudest and the rest of the story usually follows in weeks or even months thereafter.

The media will latch onto the video (That gets viewers) because it is conflict or controversy that sells a story. The pundits and social activists will run with the issue and spin it whichever way, all based on half truths, incomplete information.......etc. They make it theirs and in some cases even turn things completely on its head. Later down the road we figure out what the real truth was and even then, you have to look for it, because it usually gets buried in all the background noise. Again, Google “Rodney King” or “OJ Simpson” and you have to dig through all the trash of conspiracy theories, racism and other garbage before you find something factual, chronological, non-biased, comprehensive, i.e. objective and truthful.


126 posted on 04/30/2011 12:25:24 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
-It might mean he works a bad area of town.

-It could mean he was on a violent crimes task force.

-It might mean that the city you are in easily clears shootings

-It might mean you are a punk with a badge

It could be any or all of the above.

127 posted on 04/30/2011 12:42:52 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: TankerKC

Sure-

Those that fly off the handle with these sort of stories tell more about themselves than the story itself tells about an event.

There are many examples of events or issues that become these sort of rallying points around which the lemmings gather. These events become a battle cry for people that already have very strong feelings on an issue. Another example, Abu Gharib or Elian Gonzalez.......... Essentially, it’s this exact thinking why the Muslim community fly’s off the handle when they see doctored up pictures with a highly emotional article full of factual half truths of what the Jews/Israel did, when the blacks in the US immediately fly off the handle with the N.D. Lacrosse team. These people all already “know” something to be true and it’s just a matter of the right event sparking their short emotional and irrational fuse.

People give insight into their paradigm (so to speak- the world they wish it were and how they want to see things) and their inability to stay rational, objective and without emotion coming to what one would call “truth” by simply charging forward half baked on these issues. Like a bull seeing a the red cape, they charge into the issue and fill in all the voids and questions with assumptions and come to the outcome they wish it were. By doing this, they inevitably make an ass of themselves (not always, but most of the time).

Another such innocent victim of ruthless police brutality: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/669597-peyton-hillis-notre-dame-boston-marathon-and-mondays-late-sports-buzz/entry/65589-crystal-mangum-duke-lacrosse-rape-accuser-may-face-murder-charges


128 posted on 04/30/2011 2:01:02 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
There are many examples of events or issues that become these sort of rallying points around which the lemmings gather. These events become a battle cry for people that already have very strong feelings on an issue.

Well, thank the heavens that you've been able to keep a completely open mind.

129 posted on 04/30/2011 4:35:25 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: TankerKC

There are many issues where people come to quick conclusions based on their personal perceptions and bias, and yes, I didn’t draw these in this case. I was attempting to point out all the *unknowns* on day one and was attacked for doing so (Go back and check). Asking questions obviously bothered some of the “critical thinkers” here. Last I checked, the underlying purpose of this forum is to be the media’s critic. So I withdrew and simply let time fill in the voids which it tends to do. There are many “open minded” folk that knew it all the second the story broke.


130 posted on 04/30/2011 6:50:36 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
You didn't copy me in your message from quite some time ago. I just now saw your post because you wrote it without including me in the distribution list. You wrote:

“Darius is a liar-

The rest of the same article also goes into describing Crooks past and describes the circumstances of both shootings.

Liars play their game by withholding pertinent information thereby creating a false perception. See my post above which is on Crooks.

Here’s the article he’s probably quoting: http://www.lvrj.com/news/exclusive-police-beating-of-las-vegas-man-caught-on-tape-120509439.html

There is no point in discussing something like this with someone like Darius because he already has his mind made up, is simply looking for his cause (battle cry) and is willing to lie cheat and steal to make his point.”

1st of I didn't write the article. Secondly I don't give a fig for the background of Crookes or what other issues he has had with LE. The fact that he said he lives there or does not live makes no difference at all. The cop was wrong and you are wrong. You also called me a liar but did not have the courage to ping me. So you are a cowardly POS who gets no respect from me.

131 posted on 06/23/2011 9:14:29 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: cherry
On the other hand, there are plenty of local cops who are doing a super job, beyond the call of duty.
I know one personally who is doing a super job in community relations police work, working with a citizens group to keep the community safe. And I am thinking of another person, a police chief in a small town, who goes out of his way to help in whatever way he can.
132 posted on 06/23/2011 9:24:42 AM PDT by Doneel
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To: babygene

“It might be better to bide your time and take care of this unfinished business later.”

That is exactly what I was thinking... Something like this need to be handled “off the books”...


133 posted on 06/23/2011 9:59:02 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: DariusBane
In these cases the press abets whichever side gets the greater ratings and complacently plays along with what they even often know is wrong.

I don't know what I don't know, but I do know enough that most of these stories are full of hyperbole, people automatically default towards a position based on their contrived ideas. You only see some of the facts (much more is usually presented when there is a trial) and video is but part of it. More often than not, you are proven wrong in the long run may that be Rodney King, the Duke Lacrosse team, the Philadelphia police beating someone.........

No, if he lives there does matter.

Yes, someones past does indicate ones credibility or if one is a consistent/persistent shit head looking for trouble, trying to squeeze out a dime or make his 15 minutes of fame by pulling some stunt.

Yes, you are a liar because you omit information from articles you probably quoted. Omission of pertinent information to intentionally mislead or deceive is a form of lying. Sorry that makes you “feel” bad about yourself, I know in our society it's all about making people “feel” good about themselves.

No, I didn't omit you intentionally, I just don't care because discussing things with someone that has no intent of seeking the truth is a waste of time, and I don't know how to send a post to multiple people at once.

No, I'm not a coward, I earned my CIB on three occasions, I have two combat tours as an infantryman, one which was 17 months in Iraq which made be a 90% disabled VET.

This is my last post to you, as I stated, I don't waste my time with people who have no intent on being truthful and simply want to twist something so it fits their contrived idea of how they want to see things. You might as well be one of those that jump on the Jesse Jackson bandwagon.

Do this- wait and see how it turns out, then ask yourself why it didn't turn out the way you thought (as is most often the case)? Obviously this will then be a conspiracy..... lol

134 posted on 06/23/2011 4:02:45 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6; All

I quit reading at “articles you probably quoted”.

Your assumptions are what they are. You are calling me a liar based on things “you probably quoted”.

Mindless, silly, vapid. Good day.


135 posted on 06/23/2011 6:50:06 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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