But I don't wanna fast!
Posted on 04/18/2011 4:44:08 PM PDT by rocco55
There has never been a greater "TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE" issue facing our country !
What better time for Trump to make a PUBLIC DEMAND to see Obama's birth records ! Obama recently stated that he was "born in Hawaii". Dr. Fukino purportedly stated he was delivered in Hawaii by a "doctor". I believe these statements warrant affirmative action in the form of a political ultimatum, defined as:
"A final demand or set of terms made by one party to to another to settle a dispute, the failure to comply or rejection of which may serve as the equivalent of a guilty plea."
If Mr. Trump authoritatively and publicly states (as only he can) that he wants to END THE BIRTHER CONTROVERSY on national television, set forth in the above terms as an appeal to the President AND the nation, perhaps on FOX news, his comments couldn't help but gain unprecedented national attention.
Mr. Obama needs a deadline, period !
Without this, the Birther Issue perpetuates 'forever' !
Regardless of your political affiliation or personal views, no one can dispute that this isn't a BIG hot button issue. If Donald Trump stated this on a Tuesday AM FOX show, it would spread like wildfire and be fully recognized both worldwide and nationally by the end of business on Tuesday. The 'world' would know that the onus is on Obama alone - as he is the only one who can end this - but the emphasis has to be on "ENDING THE BIRTHER ISSUE" ! That way the media CANNOT accuse Trump of 'continuing in this nonsense !
And the only way to END this is for Barack Hussein Obama to show the nation his long form birth certificate. Most importantly, as stated, a deadline needs to be established, say, 72 hours ! Most people can obtain a birth certificate within 24 hours if need be, and if you're the President, you can probably obtain a copy with a matter of hours. Since both John McCain and Dwight Eisenhower were required to provide their long form birth certificates to run for President, no one can possibly make the claim that this is a matter of race.
The ball would be in the Obama camp as the clock ticks ! With each succeeding day, Mr. Trump can proudly state: "Hey, I agree with the media, let's bring an END TO THE BIRTHER ISSUE ! Hey guys, I am on your side, let's not beat this dead horse ! Let's end this once and or all - I always said that 'I hope he was born in Hawaii' ! I don't want to fight over this, I want to 'settle' it, and there is a BIG difference !"
A birth certificate is the MOST BASIC form of human identity ON EARTH ! This is a very simple request and since this document is required for marriage licenses, Little League and enrollment into our military, it cannot and should not be construed as an invasion into one's personal privacy.
Think of it, of all of the people in the United States of America, who is the one person that should NOT be allowed to hide their birth records ? A military soldier needs to supply a birth certificate to fight for our nation, but the one giving orders does not ? Further, where in America can a father bring his son to register for Little League and when asked for the boy's birth certificate, provide a copy of a 'micro-fiche newspaper' clipping ? Where in America can a man entering the Military Service suggest to the officials that he doesn't need paper birth records to enroll into the service. If the Military wants to see his Birth Certificate, it's simple, all they have to do is log-on to his web site and view the "internet image" !
Since stating his simple request for Mr. Obama's long form birth certificate, Donald Trump has been 'rewarded' with merciless criticism from such celebrities as Whoopie Goldberg, Bill Cosby, Mark Levin and Obama's sister, not to mention the daily barrage of egregiously premeditated malicious press attacks from CNN, Washington Post, NY Times, etc., all of which intentionally misrepresent Mr. Trump's motive - THE TRUTH ! Did not Donald Trump say "I hope he was born in Hawaii, I assume he was born in Hawaii, but I would like to remove the word 'assume' from the equation." ?
Obama's sister, obviously upset with Mr. Trump's comments when interviewed, stated :
"I think it's unfortunate," she told Morgan when asked about the controversy....."he was born in Hawaii....I think my brother should definitely be president for a second term. That's really all I have to say about it."
This milk-toast interview is one for the record books ! Mr. Trump said in three consecutive widely publicized national mainstream interviews that 'his own relatives cannot even agree on which hospital he was born in' ! And his sister comes to his defense and in her rebuttal simply says he was born in Hawaii...and should be president for a second term, and "that's all I have to say about it." What kind of news reporting is this ? I'll tell what kind - BIASED !
Personally, I do not believe the short form certification of live birth is authentic. Sadly, Mr. Obama has unlimited financial resources. He has access to the best techs on the planet ! He has a perfect document from which to clone - Susan Nordyke, born the day after he was. With enough time, I wouldn't be surprised if he could pass off yet another fraudulent document. And, since he has already established a precedent for submitting media drooling "fake on-line images", he doesn't even have to show anyone the real paper ! Consequently, I repeat the opening line:
"TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE !"
(Donald - by definition : "great chief; mighty"
Trump - by definition :
"Something, especially something held in reserve, that gives one a decisive advantage, as a trump card.")
It should be revealed very late in October, just before the ‘12 election.
Until then, let <0 “enjoy” 600+ days of flop sweat dread and chain smoking anxiety.
Putting a drop dead deadline on it is very Alinsky!
And..Ditto for passport records, school records, social security records, any immigration records of Obama and his family, selective service, and any law board records of him and his wife.
Add to that list in post #2, adoption records.
Add to that list in post #2, adoption records.
It will immediately raise the issue of whether or not Executive Orders he wrote are valid, whether Sotomeyer and Kagan should remain on the Supreme Court and whether of not there is a shield of privilege on all the communications he has had with his Czars and political allies like Ayers,Soros and the union thugs who frequent the White House.
Beltway insiders want this discussion to go away tomorrow.
But I don't wanna fast!
He proves that he is a natural born citizen by a set date and if he doesn't it is assumed that he is a usurper.
Great idea!
The only way this will happen is for states to rule that the documentation has to be presented for being allowed to be on the ballot. Otherwise the Chi-town thugs will just say “make me”.
What do you bet they will try ao get around any state measures by saying Obama’s documentation has already been approved or he would not have been allowed to run in 2008.
Yes, they are this audacious.
Unless someone comes up with some hard core evidence, then don't expect anyone in DC to lift a finger on this issue..
The thing that gets under my skin, is not just the MSM, but conservative commentators that claim this whole birther thing is nonsense and that the left wants us to talk about it, because it side tracks from real issues. I really hate it when they scuffle at the idea we have a legitimate beef, but that they make fun of us too. Grrrrr.
Never mind that the Constitution calls for only a natural-born citizen to be eligible to be President and that Obama has yet to prove that he is a “natural-born” citizen. Or that he has yet to prove he was even BORN here... Or has he even answered why he’s spent millions HIDING and CLOSING the records for public view? What is he hiding and WHY??? It doesn’t make sense more people aren’t up in arms about this.
It amazes me how easily they shrug this issue off, and think it’s non-essential to our liberties and future of America. Obama and his cohorts (and those above them), have perpetrated THE biggest scam on EVERYONE, if it is indeed found that Obama is not eligible to be President. Should that not count for something???
I want to scream every time I hear them bash the “birthers” or what we deem important. It’s more than just a “birth certificate” issue, as well IMO, because Obama has paid almost $2 million to hide many many other important “background” documents and there HAS to be a reason.
I can’t imagine it’s all a scam to make us look nutty...and they’re waiting for the right time to reveal the true Long Form BC...blah blah blah. That’s just stupid, to me.
And as to the side tracking of real issues? Nonsense. Not only are we able to focus on more than one issue at a time (no matter what the MSM tells us we’re capable of), I think ALL of us, concerned about this whole “document” issue with Obama and his background, are onto the real issues, and this is just the tip of the iceburg to those issues, IMO.
From now on, anyone questioning Obama’s BC (and other documents) should stop calling ourselves the “birthers” and start calling us the “Constitutional Documenters”.
Also, I for one, don’t give a rats behind, that it was Hillary Clinton who started this whole birther thing....because honestly, I think she’s part of the whole NWO plan anyway, and the higher ups told her to STFU, stand aside and let Obama do his thing, and she’d get hers, and that’s why she let it go. All those elites are in this together, so anyone who brings up that the Clintons didn’t find anything, so there must be nothing, haven’t thought about how tight those damn left wing progressive elites are...just my opinion.
Trump’s got investigators who “can’t believe what they’re finding” so I’m sure he’ll clear it up soon. Oh wait, he’s just milking it and playing people for suckers. Almost forgot.
From p.14 "Conspiracy Theories" by CASS R. SUNSTEIN
II. Governmental Responses
What can government do about conspiracy theories? Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses: (1)Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5 Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions.
However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5).
QED, I think, and greetings to all paid trolls and Obots!
Birth in Hawaii is a strawman issue avoiding the disqualifying issue of a foreign citizen father.
Timeline? Obama will release his birth certificate showing birth in Hawaii just before the 2012 election in an attempt to quell the issue for his supporters.
Hey people we need to quit talking about the place of birth, and address the issue of pedigree. Obama is a mutt......
Vattel 212....Vattel’s thoughts on the matter, written in a text the Founders consulted when writting the Constitution.
“..... I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Yes, I’m in, I want the birther issue to end now, and soon, and I am and others are with Donald Trump who want this issue to end now, Obama ? show the birth certificate and other documents now at date set by Donald Trump...
I don’t remember where I read it, but, maybe other Freepers remember...
an article that stated that printing presses from the 1960’s (in Canada) and other “antique” means of printing, WILL be accessed to put forth a more convincing BC for Little Stevie Dunham.
The longer Trump (or anyone else) waits to DEMAND Little Stevie Dunham submit the long form birth certificate, the more time his minions have to produce a good fake. And, if he waits until the last minute before the elections to produce the fake to the public, the less time will be available to denounce it’s authenticity.
Soembody make the move NOW!!!
Beltway insiders want this discussion to go away tomorrow.
They want to cover it up tomorrow. Nothing to see here.
With the whole number sequencing issue— I don’t see how they can make a fake that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
AZ bill was just vetoed by Gov. Jan Brewer... ! ! ! How can
anyone (especially a conservative politician) OPPOSE submitting the most basic from of human identity for the highest office in the land is beyond me ! Especially when BO nor any HI State official can state what hospital he was born in ! This is downright EVIL !
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