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Conventional Education Will Go the Way of Farming
Ludwig Von Mises Institute ^ | April 15, 2011 | Mises Daily

Posted on 04/15/2011 7:17:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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1 posted on 04/15/2011 7:17:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Interesting comparison, farming and education. Thanks for posting. I’ll have to spend more time on it later.


2 posted on 04/15/2011 7:22:29 AM PDT by MulberryDraw
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I support vocational education, apprentice programs, homeschooling, and private schools.

For people who want to learn, a great deal could be accomplished with lectures on DVDs and online testing. Those who do not want to learn just muck up the system and drive up costs when we try to force them into the system.

Modern education is a racket. Get a job. Learn a trade. Pick up the skills you need in order to move ahead. Sitting in a classroom with 30 other people is generally a waste of time.

3 posted on 04/15/2011 7:25:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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4 posted on 04/15/2011 7:35:28 AM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Brick and Mortar education centers (schools) are obsolete. Technology has made them obsolete.
5 posted on 04/15/2011 7:40:06 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The revolution will also allow kids to proceed at their own pace instead of forcing the brighter kids to work at the pace of the slowest in the class. Websites like Khan Academy allow kids to acquire the basic knowledge at their own pace and in their own time.

It can't come soon enough.

6 posted on 04/15/2011 7:41:34 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The problem with public education is not “just” the cost, but the quality of the “education” received by the students. It is more about propaganda and the “party line” than about the process of learning useful knowledge.

That MUST change, or the nation will die.

“A people ignorant and free, never was and never will be.” -Thomas Jefferson


7 posted on 04/15/2011 7:42:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Now 5 million tractors and a dazzling array of farm implements do the work of thousands”

I understand the context but the way it’s written makes it look like we are wasting money on tractors.


8 posted on 04/15/2011 7:51:05 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Modern education is a racket. Get a job. Learn a trade. Pick up the skills you need in order to move ahead. Sitting in a classroom with 30 other people is generally a waste of time.”

Agreed. I earned my Business degree while serving in the military. That combination of education on the fly and real world experience has served me well.

Every job I’ve had, post-Army has been a cakewalk compared to what was expected to be accomplished each and every DAY in the military.

I’ve done everything from construction management to managing agri-related businesses. It’s been a fun ride! People have entrusted me with millions of their dollars, just based on my little degree and my ability to get things done.

There were times when it was really hard, but I sure wish more kids would consider that path. (My son is at a tech school right now working on a computer degree...he understands what he’s up against.)


9 posted on 04/15/2011 7:55:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You are right. But I will add one thing....education is more than a racket...it is a means to an end (in the Marxist/Skinnerean sense).

It is to create group-think (mass conformity and stupidity—where logic is non-existent). Dewey set up the Prussian design for mass indoctrination—but the design of one teacher to same age in forced school system—leads to NO outside the box thinkers. All subject matter is set to mediocre at best....the brightest are bored to death and act out and get medicated and destroyed.

Peers make him seem odd and an outsider and he learns to “fit” in through gentle humiliation from teacher and peers.......It is to kill any old fashioned ideas of Intelligent Design and meaning and hope in life. Make kids into trousered animals—just consumers of what ever the elites try to sell—sex, earthly pleasures...even ideas—such as homosexual marriage, no matter how bizarre and how unnatural.

It is to keep the masses down and busy.....interested in stupid non-important stuff—time consuming nonsense—avoiding the true meaning and questions of life.

Our education system was designed by Marxists (Dewey, Dr. Rugg/Dr. Counts, Bill Ayers) to create little non-thinking Marxists because communism allows for no logic—it defies Natural Law Theory which is just common sense.


10 posted on 04/15/2011 7:58:49 AM PDT by savagesusie
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Brick and Mortar education centers (schools) are obsolete. Technology has made them obsolete.

It depends on the skills being learned. I don't want to be operated on by a surgeon who graduated from a distance learning program. Some skills can't be learned from lectures and books, so there will always be a need for some type of program that provides hands-on learning.

However - this is the exception. Most programs could be taught via distance learning.

11 posted on 04/15/2011 8:02:42 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Rebelbase

IMHO, one can never be too rich, too thin or have too many tractors! :)


12 posted on 04/15/2011 8:15:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Revolution will not be televised.

It will be on YouTube...


13 posted on 04/15/2011 8:19:12 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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Then, the question becomes...who takes over for the Socialists in the future when their pool of candidates is so ‘dumbed-down’ as to be useless in a leadership role?

I mean, I’m not saying the Left is smart, though they are clever and insidious...and those aren’t usually naturally acquired talents. It takes time to learn to lie to and hypnotize the masses on a minute-by-minute basis...though current TV *SHUDEER* and all manner of other social ills sure does aid them in their quest!


14 posted on 04/15/2011 8:19:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve been dating a farm girl for a few years now and just last year was formally indoctrinated into antique tractor culture at a few events.

A very interesting hobby and seeing hundreds at one time lined up in show rows opened up my eyes to something I never even knew existed.


15 posted on 04/15/2011 8:22:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: absalom01

And edited properly to suit the cause! ;)


16 posted on 04/15/2011 8:22:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Rebelbase

We farm girls are pretty interesting all the way around. :) I know more than a few of us have brought a lot to the table for our men - you know, food we’ve grown, animals we’ve raised and butchered, an appreciation of all things ‘au natural’...that kind of stuff, LOL!

Play this Sinatra for your girlfriend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZctoaLQMmTM


17 posted on 04/15/2011 8:28:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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This is correct! Basically, there is no "one size fits all" program for education - yet that is what we have today: one size fits all!

If you are too bright, you are dumbed down or medicated or you self-adjust (one of my daughters took the SAT in the 7th grade and scored in the top 20% of graduating SENIORS - but she said when she talked to her peers and told them her grades she lied to say they were lower and spoke in more slang to "fit in!")!

If you are too slow, you are often just pushed through the system to be someone else's problem or you drag down the class through acting out or you simply drop-out (but at least you have really good self-esteem about your dumb@ss)!!

I believe distance learning would be cheaper and more effective than any brick-n-mortar school - especially when it comes to basic K-12 classes! The savings in school buildings and teacher salaries and "school-overhead" and FREE LUNCHES and everything else could easily pay for the computers needed to access the schools system. Talk about a cost savings, instead of having the school district buy it, have each parent (you know, the one who CONCEIVED THE KID) pay for the computer (make it tax free - for school supplies)! In most cities, we could provide school-net (like the old usenet service) for every kid and it would be by far CHEAPER than what we are doing today!

But, do you have any idea how many parents would scream bloody murder if they didn't have this "free" babysitting service every single day?!?!? Although this would be better for the kids, and I believe the overall costs of property taxes/sales taxes/income taxes which go to school districts would be MUCH cheaper, MOST people would not agree because it would force the parents to do something called PARENTING!! This won't happen, because it is the best, most simple way to fix MANY problems all at one time!
18 posted on 04/15/2011 8:28:28 AM PDT by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: Rebelbase

Oh, and marry her if she’ll have ya! We don’t last long when we’re suddenly on the available market, LOL! :)


19 posted on 04/15/2011 8:33:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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We are a few generations removed from the farm, but every fall our family looks forward to the Antique Threshing Show. My husband could spend hours looking at all the old tractors. As for me, I never knew I would develop such an unexplained affinity for old Farmall tractors.
20 posted on 04/15/2011 8:36:00 AM PDT by Spudx7
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