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Anyone watching O'Reilly? His "Facts" and his "Myths"
April 12, 2011

Posted on 04/12/2011 5:18:50 PM PDT by Red Steel

O'Reilly went over his talking points. He said he called the state of Hawaii and he says they do have a legitimate birth certificate for Obama.

O'Reilly is still perpetuating the myth that Hawaii has confirmed the Internet Hawaiian COLB is genuine. BOR: Donald Trump is going to be proven wrong

Combs: they are a bunch of nuts who hate Obama....


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; bor; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nomorbor; nomorebor; oreilly; oreillyblowsobama; oreillyhatestheusa; oreillyisgay; trump
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To: Lazlo in PA

No mention of the Selective Service Registration using an alledged fraudulent SSN. Ted Baxter is in the tank for Zero.


41 posted on 04/12/2011 5:45:50 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: IH8DEMS

The information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.

The reason is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including original registraation info, the INDEX of data extracted, and the info requested and issued in a COLB.

There are multiple and myriad ways that the original registration information may have been filed. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed “late registrations” “registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens” amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the fathers name on the original record. In consequence of many of these variations, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.

But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent, possible without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. “Delayed Birth Registration” (”..additional evidence MAY be required”).

Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.

A significant factor in continuing doubt as to Obama’s progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace.


42 posted on 04/12/2011 5:46:31 PM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Red Steel

But Hawaii is no longer providing Long Form BCs, as of what, 4/11?

And there is the occasional story of someone getting a ‘visit’ and told not to ask questions, a la the Cosa Nostra, Chicago style.

How can Hawaii change policy without notice? Or any state, for that matter?

This appears to indicate that the Democrats/totalitarians will do absolutely anything to hide the 0bama myth. Including political or other form of any necessary ‘offing’ required to keep interested parties silent. For good.


43 posted on 04/12/2011 5:47:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Starboard

Geez, mareez, it’s worse than I thought. BOR was on right now totally defending Obama and kissing off Donald Trump basically as one of those crazy Birthers. BOR is outdoing himself in brown nosing and kissing Obama’s *ss. Why would I ever have thought otherwise, considering BOR’s inate fence sitting propensities, although he’s gotten off the fence w/regards to Obama, he’s very obviously on Obama’s side here. BOR is making me sick. What makes me equally sick is that BOR goes up against Alan Colmes (a total lib) and Monica Crowley who obviously knows very little about the details of Obama’s BC and his missing records. She didn’t do her homework. Therefore, BOR is able to roll her because she has not studied up on this case of the missing docs to be able to refute what BOR slings out there. This man (BOR) makes me want to puke.

Also, BOR (with his Harvard degree, don’t ya know) is IMO feeling very competitive with Trump getting so much of the limelight of late, and is letting the Trumpster have it by stabbing him in the back shortly after The Donald appeared on BOR’s show. If I were Trump, I would proceed to shun BOR ahd not go on his show again. I should think Trump has figured this out as he is probably still working at getting the stiletto out of his back.


44 posted on 04/12/2011 5:50:14 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Red Steel

Imagine the mythology that will surround 0bama shrines.

He’ll be the Where’s Waldo of Presidential spaces. With reams of non-existent, self-written documents, college records, childhood pictures, etc., etc.


45 posted on 04/12/2011 5:50:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Gail Wynand
A significant factor in continuing doubt as to Obama’s progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace.

Yes. Release of the certified birth certificate, name the doctor who delivered him, and name of the hospital he was born could confirm his status and end the speculation.

46 posted on 04/12/2011 5:52:37 PM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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To: IH8DEMS

47 posted on 04/12/2011 5:55:52 PM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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To: LA Woman3
Allegation: Barack Obama received foreign student aid while in college. False. (Somebody just made that up).

Unknown O'Reilly.

He has not released his school records. Obama likely went to Occidental as a foreign student. He still was a citizen of Kenya at the time and he was also likely a citizen of Indonesia.

Allegation: no birth certificate has been made public. True, but Hawaii officials say it's on file.

It all depends what is "is." Anyone can claim someone was born in Hawaii and the the Hawaiian DoH would issue a birth certificate.

No Hawaiian hospital to date has said and have denied in the past that Obama was not born in their hospitals.

Allegation: Michelle Obama lost her law license. False. (She has an inactive law license.)

O'Reilly, we don't know the circumstances why she gave up her Illinois law license.

48 posted on 04/12/2011 5:56:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
It still comes down to why pay two million to hide it? Show it AND your school records!!!!
49 posted on 04/12/2011 5:59:21 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: IH8DEMS

“why Obama has hired a team of lawyers and paid over 2 million dollars to keep the Long Form BC (if such monster even exists) under wraps”

Wonder how much of that $2 million went to bribes?


50 posted on 04/12/2011 5:59:27 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Off the top of my head
Geraldo-lib
Shep Smith-lib
O’Reilly-lib in moderate clothing
Beck-leaving the network
Hannity conservative
Greta-moderate


51 posted on 04/12/2011 5:59:40 PM PDT by omega4179 (Its Soetoro)
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To: combat_boots

Hawaii now disallowing citizens from getting their long form BC is absolutely unbelievable. Any new reporter worth anything at all would immediately ask “why now?”

The information contained on the birth certificate is there for a reason. And I’d think every citizen would have a right to get that information in the form of a birth certificate. Is this legal? Maybe Bill can answer that in his “Is this legal?” segment.


52 posted on 04/12/2011 6:00:47 PM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: Hotlanta Mike
No mention of the Selective Service Registration using an alledged fraudulent SSN. Ted Baxter is in the tank for Zero.

Yes, according to ORYR, O'Reilly advertised a teaser that he would have a story about it tonight. O'Reilly may have put out "Vaporware" as they say in the computer industry.

53 posted on 04/12/2011 6:01:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

O’reily has been irrelavent for a very long time.


54 posted on 04/12/2011 6:02:03 PM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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The state of Hawaii changes rules and says NOBODY can get a long form birth certificate. I’ve never heard of such a thing in my life. It tells me they’ll do anything to protect obama. Whoever the hell “they” are.

In all honesty, with Hawaii changing the rules and no reporter willing to challenge this and no court allowing anyone to have standing, I GIVE UP. It’s over. There’s nothing that can be done. Flame away if you want.


55 posted on 04/12/2011 6:04:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: sox_the_cat

Hawaii now disallowing citizens from getting their long form BC is absolutely unbelievable. Any new reporter worth anything at all would immediately ask “why now?”

Im sure the White House just ordered this up. Well just tell them you can get the Long Version anymore. What great lengths they go to to conceal this data from us.


56 posted on 04/12/2011 6:04:49 PM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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To: Red Steel
BOR is worse than useless. He's aiding and abetting America's greatest enemy in history.

BOR is like an Oncologist lying to a patient riddled with cancer that they are fine.

57 posted on 04/12/2011 6:05:28 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: Starboard

It’s probably Boehner that has to take a statement of the Hawaii officials, then try them for perjury if it don’t exist.


58 posted on 04/12/2011 6:06:23 PM PDT by Son House (Finally, People Lie, Because They Feel If They Tell The Truth, They Won't Get What They Want.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Maybe People will wake up and realize that FOX News is not Conservative.

Well, that's just dumb. Of course, it is.

O'Reilly isn't. It amazes me that so many of you have just started to figure that out.

59 posted on 04/12/2011 6:17:07 PM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: IH8DEMS

Anyone with a common ancestor with Obama has a legal right to Obama’s BC. George Obama could use the money...


60 posted on 04/12/2011 6:17:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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