Posted on 04/12/2011 5:18:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
No mention of the Selective Service Registration using an alledged fraudulent SSN. Ted Baxter is in the tank for Zero.
The information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.
The reason is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including original registraation info, the INDEX of data extracted, and the info requested and issued in a COLB.
There are multiple and myriad ways that the original registration information may have been filed. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed “late registrations” “registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens” amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the fathers name on the original record. In consequence of many of these variations, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.
But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent, possible without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. “Delayed Birth Registration” (”..additional evidence MAY be required”).
Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.
A significant factor in continuing doubt as to Obama’s progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace.
But Hawaii is no longer providing Long Form BCs, as of what, 4/11?
And there is the occasional story of someone getting a ‘visit’ and told not to ask questions, a la the Cosa Nostra, Chicago style.
How can Hawaii change policy without notice? Or any state, for that matter?
This appears to indicate that the Democrats/totalitarians will do absolutely anything to hide the 0bama myth. Including political or other form of any necessary ‘offing’ required to keep interested parties silent. For good.
Geez, mareez, it’s worse than I thought. BOR was on right now totally defending Obama and kissing off Donald Trump basically as one of those crazy Birthers. BOR is outdoing himself in brown nosing and kissing Obama’s *ss. Why would I ever have thought otherwise, considering BOR’s inate fence sitting propensities, although he’s gotten off the fence w/regards to Obama, he’s very obviously on Obama’s side here. BOR is making me sick. What makes me equally sick is that BOR goes up against Alan Colmes (a total lib) and Monica Crowley who obviously knows very little about the details of Obama’s BC and his missing records. She didn’t do her homework. Therefore, BOR is able to roll her because she has not studied up on this case of the missing docs to be able to refute what BOR slings out there. This man (BOR) makes me want to puke.
Also, BOR (with his Harvard degree, don’t ya know) is IMO feeling very competitive with Trump getting so much of the limelight of late, and is letting the Trumpster have it by stabbing him in the back shortly after The Donald appeared on BOR’s show. If I were Trump, I would proceed to shun BOR ahd not go on his show again. I should think Trump has figured this out as he is probably still working at getting the stiletto out of his back.
Imagine the mythology that will surround 0bama shrines.
He’ll be the Where’s Waldo of Presidential spaces. With reams of non-existent, self-written documents, college records, childhood pictures, etc., etc.
Yes. Release of the certified birth certificate, name the doctor who delivered him, and name of the hospital he was born could confirm his status and end the speculation.
Unknown O'Reilly.
He has not released his school records. Obama likely went to Occidental as a foreign student. He still was a citizen of Kenya at the time and he was also likely a citizen of Indonesia.
Allegation: no birth certificate has been made public. True, but Hawaii officials say it's on file.
It all depends what is "is." Anyone can claim someone was born in Hawaii and the the Hawaiian DoH would issue a birth certificate.
No Hawaiian hospital to date has said and have denied in the past that Obama was not born in their hospitals.
Allegation: Michelle Obama lost her law license. False. (She has an inactive law license.)
O'Reilly, we don't know the circumstances why she gave up her Illinois law license.
“why Obama has hired a team of lawyers and paid over 2 million dollars to keep the Long Form BC (if such monster even exists) under wraps”
Wonder how much of that $2 million went to bribes?
Off the top of my head
Geraldo-lib
Shep Smith-lib
O’Reilly-lib in moderate clothing
Beck-leaving the network
Hannity conservative
Greta-moderate
Hawaii now disallowing citizens from getting their long form BC is absolutely unbelievable. Any new reporter worth anything at all would immediately ask “why now?”
The information contained on the birth certificate is there for a reason. And I’d think every citizen would have a right to get that information in the form of a birth certificate. Is this legal? Maybe Bill can answer that in his “Is this legal?” segment.
Yes, according to ORYR, O'Reilly advertised a teaser that he would have a story about it tonight. O'Reilly may have put out "Vaporware" as they say in the computer industry.
O’reily has been irrelavent for a very long time.
The state of Hawaii changes rules and says NOBODY can get a long form birth certificate. I’ve never heard of such a thing in my life. It tells me they’ll do anything to protect obama. Whoever the hell “they” are.
In all honesty, with Hawaii changing the rules and no reporter willing to challenge this and no court allowing anyone to have standing, I GIVE UP. It’s over. There’s nothing that can be done. Flame away if you want.
Hawaii now disallowing citizens from getting their long form BC is absolutely unbelievable. Any new reporter worth anything at all would immediately ask “why now?”
Im sure the White House just ordered this up. Well just tell them you can get the Long Version anymore. What great lengths they go to to conceal this data from us.
BOR is like an Oncologist lying to a patient riddled with cancer that they are fine.
It’s probably Boehner that has to take a statement of the Hawaii officials, then try them for perjury if it don’t exist.
Well, that's just dumb. Of course, it is.
O'Reilly isn't. It amazes me that so many of you have just started to figure that out.
Anyone with a common ancestor with Obama has a legal right to Obama’s BC. George Obama could use the money...
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