Posted on 04/11/2011 10:10:04 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog
In the MSNBC interview with Dr. Chiyome Fukino, "she found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files."
That's REALLY significant! Because, if half of his Birth Certificate is handwritten, then that implies changes to the original certificate! This happens in adoptions, or when changes to the original are requested.
Below, you will find an actual Hawaiian Birth Certificate from roughly the same time period as Obama's. Note that the only handwriting on the certificate is as expected; signatures and dates:
Yeah, the only place where it's constitutionally required is the one place where you don't have to show it.
>She specifically delineates “half handwritten”
>>>What, specifically, would satisfy you? Half of the letters?
>>>Half of the words? Half the surface area? Half of the blocks?
Now your just being silly.
What? You don’t find it just a little odd that a medical doctor, who sees birth certificates all the time, thought it important enough to mention that half the document was handwritten?
Surely you don’t mean to suggest that a medical doctor was implying that the hand written content was merely the signatures and dates. They are on just about all medical forms and need no further elaborations as everyone already knows that signatures must be signed by hand.
No, the only reason why a medical doctor would even think to say that half the Birth Certificate is handwritten is if there is something else on it besides the usual signatures and dates.
Methinks Dr. Fukino is hinting that there are changes to Obama’s Birth Certificate, but legally, she is not allowed to openly say that.
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>Partly typed, partly handwritten is the key to the new and likely fraudulent production. They sought and found a partially prepared LFBC from 1961 which probably was in a file to be discarded, but they could not run the risk of using the wrong old typewriter not knowing what typewriter was used back then. Completed by hand so the risk of a ‘Rathergate’ is lessened.
Interesting theory. Don’t they routinely discard partially completed [boiler-plated] Birth Certificates on an annual basis? Sure, I guess it’s possible that someone kept one on file somewhere. But, how do you put the word out that you’re looking for such a certificate without raising suspicion?
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“4. DNA testing would be possible if Trump’s PI finds discarded food items (half eaten apple type of thing) from a member of the first family and Davis family. Likely be easy to pay one of the African Obama’s money for a blood sample (George is broke). That’d conclusively establish non-paternity/paternity outside getting the Holy Grail birth certificate.”
Great point. The more I’m thinking about this issue, I’m really starting to think that Obama is the result of an affair between his grandmother and Frank Davis. Explains alot. His Grandparents raising him, hanging out with Frank, moving to Chicago and hanging out with Frank’s friends... Ends the NBC debate though. Explains it all.... Even his reluctance to reveal the truth. DNA could settle this.
Wow! That’s quite a series of unfortunate incidents! I’m curious, are all of those birth certificates on file with the state, or is there just one? And, if all are on file with the state, how do they know which one is the correct one?
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Not at all. Fukino said that the document is half hand written. You looked at the similar doc and said it is not. The natural question is: "what would qualify as half hand written"?
Methinks...
Here’s the level of logic used on many birther threads.
I went to the hospital where I was born a few years ago to retrieve an official copy and only the ONE was on file (microfiche).
There is more to the story than that, but what I have written is the essence.
FYI the Leslie Eichel article
“....an affair between his grandmother and Frank Davis.”
Close...try “between his “grandfather” (remember “The Ears”-those are definitely his grandfather’s) and one of the “ladies” hanging out with FMD...and you’ll see why his grandmother wouldn’t be very supportive.
I figured I didn't dare ask while they were still alive. Now that they're gone, I know I should have.
ok, no snarky comments, please ... lol
On another board, someone said that the most compelling argument Trump has is that the Factcheck.org COLB has not been presented as evidence in any of the [12?] court cases.
I sure hope the above is true.
at this point, i don’t give a rat’s ass what’s on it. I WANT TO SEE IT!
until i see it, i say Dingle Barry is a fraud!
Ink, paper and writing styles can be forensically examined but i don’t see it ever getting to that point.
1) Experts can detect the age of the ink.
2) The information on a fake Obama birth certificate would need to line up with the hospital records. There would be logs from the delivery room. These logs would likely be bound journals with hand written entries. In the records room there would also be a hospital chart with hand written notes, and finally, billing records.
3) It is likely that some of the people who would have made these entries are still living.
My conclusion:
1) Fukino ( refuse to use her title) is using carefully masturbated language to obfuscate the truth.
2) Obama ( I refuse to call him “president”) hasn't released the long form birth certificate because he can't. It doesn't exist, and he can't fake one.
Mine does have the seal on it too
CNN stated the birth certificate was destroyed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2695394/posts
Image #8.
The only handwriting are the signatures and dates. The form is all typewritten.
So what she is describing is different from a standard hospital birth certificate.
This would happen when the State Div. of Vital Statistics would type in what information they had, after the doctor had filled in the parts pertaining to his role: Medical history of mother, etc., plus signatures of whoever was responsible for filling out the information. In those days, it was common practice.
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