You really have no concept of how desperate our situation is here at all, do you?
And you have no idea how governments function, do you. You have no concept of the division of our gov’t into Senate, House, Prez and what you can do and can’t do to pass bills. You know, like the House can initiate a spending bill and pass it, the Senate must then pass their own version of the bill, it must be reconciled, and vetoed or not vetoed by the Prez. Now, unless you want a dictatorship and think you can pass something without going thru these steps, then you had better have a serious talk with our forefathers who set this method up. Get real.
If no bill is passed, then what happens? The government shuts down. I see no problem with that.
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Government is the Democrats’ god. Are they really going to allow it to go completely unfed? If the Pubbies had any guts, any will, any conviction to do what they promise, they wouldn’t shy away from a shutdown.
That is the true despotism in this debate, a tyranny you're allowing to continue -- all while pathetically invoking the "Founders." Good grief. Washington is whirling in his grave like a lathe, Madison spinning like a top, over your ilk.
Even more appalling, you apply the handcuffs of "compromise" (there was none) to our side, but not to theirs. We must be satisfied with $38 bn in fictional "cuts" while they can be overjoyed by $1400 bn in actual spending in money we don't have (and $2600 bn more in spending from taxes, most of which is not justified, either morally or Constitutionally.)
The Founders explicitly and Constitutionally forbade an income tax, and all but a few of them were quite vocal about having, ZERO national debt. [Hamilton's was probably the only significant voice in favor of borrowing.] Beyond the 47% of discretionary spending on the military, most money allocated in this budget is implicitly forbidden by the Tenth Amendment; and ALL of the Entitlement Programs of the 1930's and beyond are forbidden by the Bill of Rights, by explicit Article I (Sections 7, 8 and 9) Constitutional strictures, pre-ratification Constitutional debate, and post-revolutionary tradition and precedent. Please don't pretend you know anything about US history or governance; you simply don't. Your position is untenable and completely at odds with the America that the Founders created.
Theirs' is the side that needs spending, not ours. We should have shut the government down and let 0bama continue to proclaim that he would veto stopgap funding that paid the military. 0 would have taken the blame for that, and would have caved quickly; and once the armed forces were taken care of, there was no reason for us to do anything but raise, not lower, the ante.
You have been hosed, my FRiend. Completely, thoroughly, and shamelessly. And now you're trying to sell your silly Republican talking points on FR. No sale. Boehner can swallow a crap sandwich and tell us how good it tastes with his mouth full, but informed conservatives aren't having any.
It's always amazing how brilliant and well-versed some folks are on conservative ideology...but how woefully they lack experience and insight into the reality of major league politics.
Leni