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Trump fails to produce birth certificate
Politico ^ | 03/28/2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:48:32 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Donald Trump made headlines earlier today when he provided what he said was a copy of his birth certificate -- but a quick check reveals it's actually not an official document.

The paper that Trump released says "Jamaica Hospital" on top and lists the date and time of what he says was his birth to "Mr. and Mrs. Fred C. Trump." The piece of paper has a seal at the bottom.

But after several New York City-based readers contacted POLITICO's Maggie Haberman, her call to city officials revealed that an actual birth certificate, which is issued by the Department of Health, would have the agency's seal and also a signature of the city registrar - neither of which the Trump document has. Officials said the city Health Department is the "sole issuing authority" of official birth certificates in New York, and that the document would clearly say so, and "city officials said it's not an official document."

It appears instead to be a hospital "certificate of birth," meaning the piece of paper the hospital gave to his family saying he was born. Such a document typically has the signature of the hospital administrator and the attending physician.

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To: W. W. SMITH
The aforesaid takes us back to 20 January 2009 in front of the Capital. On that podium where five men, four of whom are disqualified. Say hello to President Cheney.

Not so. Per the Constitution, the Speaker of the House would become president.

141 posted on 03/28/2011 6:29:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
...ditto on your work too!

Well, thanks. I've snared a few in my time, but never with that level of pizzazz. That was some mighty fine freepin'.

142 posted on 03/28/2011 6:31:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I was commenting on Trump’s Mom, not Obama’s alleged father.


143 posted on 03/28/2011 6:34:34 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: cynwoody
No, he didn't. Unlike Trump, Zero showed a government document. Birthers say it was forged, but, if so, why hasn't Hawaii called him on it?

He did or claimed no such thing. A 3rd party website put out a document and claimed they got it from the Obama campaign. As far as I know Obama has never confirmed or denied that this is actually his COLB.

144 posted on 03/28/2011 6:35:50 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Carlucci
Rope-a-dope is boxing slang for a tactic whereby a boxer rests against the ropes shielding himself with his arms and goading his opponent to throw tiring and ineffective punches at him.

Sounds like it.

145 posted on 03/28/2011 6:37:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: blackdog

I am loving every minute of it!!


146 posted on 03/28/2011 6:38:17 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: Windflier

Bingo....my dad (RIP)was an expect in calligraphy. I used to watch him do the hospital certificates for all the newborns. It is essentially a souvenir certificate. It it not a legal or government document. A real birth certificate (form) is signed by the attending physician and remitted to the County Government for filing. The only seal on the official birth certificate will be the that of the County of record (not a hospital although the place of birth will be noted on the form).


147 posted on 03/28/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: Windflier

Woohoo!, that be a mighty fine zapper!


148 posted on 03/28/2011 6:41:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Carlucci

I hope this is all about MSM hypocrisy to bring the whole story into the light.


149 posted on 03/28/2011 6:42:26 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Until lawyers, bureaucrats and publicists got involved, a certificate signed by the attending physician or midwife stating the date, place, time, description of the baby, information about mother & father, etc. WAS a BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

This Birth Certificate was then REGISTERED or RECORDED at the county courthouse. The county clerk did not witness or take part in the birth. The attending physician or midwife (or taxicab driver :-) ) did!

Obama has released a paper that says that the clerk at the records department was notified. That’s all.

See the precise detail required for this Georgia application for a Birth Certificate following a birth at home or a birthing center.

http://gamidwife.com/pdf/Birth%20Certificate%20Worksheet-507.pdf

Do we have this detail for Obama?


150 posted on 03/28/2011 6:45:18 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: panthermom
Mr. Panthermom must be something special!

Kidding aside, me too.

151 posted on 03/28/2011 6:46:12 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

I’m loving Trump these past few weeks. He has the left in a complete meltdown.


152 posted on 03/28/2011 6:50:48 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: MortMan
I was commenting on Trump’s Mom, not Obama’s alleged father.

Ah...beg your pardon, then. It wasn't clear in your post whose mother you were referring to.

Apparently, Trump's mother was a naturalized American citizen on the day he was born. He's NBC.

153 posted on 03/28/2011 6:50:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
The ticket being invalidated takes us back to 20 January 2009. On that date only VP Cheney can be sworn in. There is no consideration for a speaker of the house.

Using your supposition which speaker, pelosi or Boehner.

154 posted on 03/28/2011 6:51:58 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: GlockThe Vote
It's beginning to look like the Trump card beats the race card.
155 posted on 03/28/2011 6:55:39 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: W. W. SMITH
The ticket being invalidated takes us back to 20 January 2009. On that date only VP Cheney can be sworn in. There is no consideration for a speaker of the house.

Where in the Constitution do you see any mechanism for "going back", as you say? It's not there. Not only that, Cheney's term of office was officially over. He couldn't have possibly qualified to become president, under that circumstance.

Per Article II Section 1 Clause Six of the Constitution, Biden would not be eligible to take over as president. If Bozo goes, so does Biden.

Clause Six also says that the Congress may "...decl[are] what officer shall then act as President..."

There's a line of succession somewhere in the Constitution. One of us will have to find it. In the meantime, read Article II Section 1 Clause Six.

156 posted on 03/28/2011 7:02:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Smokeyblue
Donald Trump made headlines earlier today when he provided what he said was a copy of his birth certificate -- but a quick check reveals it's actually not an official document.

Yeah, that's the same problem 0bungler has. Where is the long form BC?

157 posted on 03/28/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: DouglasKC
A 3rd party website put out a document and claimed they got it from the Obama campaign. As far as I know Obama has never confirmed or denied that this is actually his COLB.

Well, ain't that slick. Plausible deniability....puke!

158 posted on 03/28/2011 7:05:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DouglasKC

As to Obama never personally having claimed the alleged COLB as his own — his spokeshole, Gibbs claimed it was his, on several occasions in front of the press.

Man, I hate splitting hairs, don’t you?


159 posted on 03/28/2011 7:07:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Should I post more, troll?

Oh, please! And pass the popcorn too!

160 posted on 03/28/2011 7:08:16 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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