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To: cynwoody
No, he didn't. Unlike Trump, Zero showed a government document. Birthers say it was forged, but, if so, why hasn't Hawaii called him on it?

He did or claimed no such thing. A 3rd party website put out a document and claimed they got it from the Obama campaign. As far as I know Obama has never confirmed or denied that this is actually his COLB.

144 posted on 03/28/2011 6:35:50 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
A 3rd party website put out a document and claimed they got it from the Obama campaign. As far as I know Obama has never confirmed or denied that this is actually his COLB.

Well, ain't that slick. Plausible deniability....puke!

158 posted on 03/28/2011 7:05:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DouglasKC

As to Obama never personally having claimed the alleged COLB as his own — his spokeshole, Gibbs claimed it was his, on several occasions in front of the press.

Man, I hate splitting hairs, don’t you?


159 posted on 03/28/2011 7:07:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DouglasKC; cynwoody
"Baghdad" Bob Gibbs claimed he put it on the internet. But the HDOH has refused to verify it.

Okubo Refuses To Authenticate COLB

PolitiFact.com actually has Okubo on the record denying that the electronic COLB image provided by the Obama campaign can be authenticated by her or by anyone at DHOH!  But that was only in a follow-up to their initial story where Okubo said the COLB was a valid Hawaiian birth certificate.

 

PolitiFact.com describes the controversy that erupted from their initial story:

      

"When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it.  Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real."

      

"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo told us.

    

"Then the firestorm started."

       

After the "firestorm," Politifact apparently conducted a follow-up interview with Okubo which shows that what Okubo meant was that the Obama COLB only appeared to be be a valid Hawaiian BC, but she could not and did not "verify" that it was a valid Hawaiian COLB BC.

       

Politifact: "Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.

 

"And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification?  'When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.'"

 

"Still, she acknowledges: 'I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.'"

 

Okubo had to back off her original claim.  And a good thing ... she originally said Obama’s alleged COLB was real because it looked like her own.  In other words, she used no formal technique to verify its accuracy.  She relied on no official record to verify its accuracy.  She just thought it looked like hers.  At best, she follows up with a second-hand anecdote, "... our registrar ... thought he could see pieces of the embossed image ..."


165 posted on 03/28/2011 7:11:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: DouglasKC
He did or claimed no such thing. A 3rd party website put out a document and claimed they got it from the Obama campaign. As far as I know Obama has never confirmed or denied that this is actually his COLB.

From 1 November 2008:

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

The above link starts off saying In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama's campaign == Obama. Their acts are his acts, unless explicitly disavowed and so proven.

Remember, birfers make it up as they go along.

221 posted on 03/28/2011 11:18:00 PM PDT by cynwoody
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