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Ironically-Named ‘Smart Meters’ Prove to Be a Dumb Idea
The Blaze ^ | 03-26-11 | Mike Opelka

Posted on 03/27/2011 11:43:50 PM PDT by FrogMom

Headaches, insomnia, tinnitus, DNA breakdown. . . These are just a few of the myriad problems mentioned when people talk about the constant bombardment of EMFs or electromagnetic frequencies, a huge by-product of the new Smart Meters being installed by public utilities around the country.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: emf; environazi; green; panic; smartmeter
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To: FrogMom
Evidently by reading the meter at various times in the day they can also hit customers with new peak/off peak use rates as well. IOW they dictate you usage by cost. These are not simply remote read meters. I don't think they can be shut off though as it takes a sizable switch to disconnect 200 amps.

Gore's new way to get your money in the name of energy reminds me of the Toll Booth in Blazing Saddles. I think it was Slip Pickens who said "what with that $$$ $$$$ think of next?"

In the mean time rather than people being angry about what the meters are intended for the morons are worried about Radio Frequency Radiation which is all around us.

A simple remote read meter can be read by the utility remotely usually from a system in the substation linked to the dispatchers computer as well. They can read it usually once a month, can see if power is turned on or the line is off, meaning transformer fuse blown on their end, and that's it. Many of them do not use external antennas but rather use the power line itself to transmit and receive on.

21 posted on 03/28/2011 3:21:50 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
“Or course, if your problem is psychological, a #10 can is perfect.”

Exactly.

The person who mounts a satellite dish on their house...is that the same person who freaks out over a smart meter?

22 posted on 03/28/2011 3:27:12 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: count-your-change
Were you on an old party line? When the receiver was picked up there would be several clicks as everyone interested would also pick up and when the parties hanged up the same. The heavy breathing was a give away. That cut down on gossip as everyone already heard everyone elses business.

Not necessarily :>} If the phone was hung up and you unscrewed the transmitter lid and took the transmitter mike out they heard nothing :>} Learned by little brother who used to pick up extension phone in the house on sister :>} I also knew the ring back codes. My dad would tell me he worked for Ma Bell.

Ever go in an older siblings bedroom and turn on the tube radio full volume while they weren't looking then got to the living room and sit down real innocently till it warmed up? LOL Those were the Good Ole Days.

23 posted on 03/28/2011 3:28:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: count-your-change

No, I was never on a party line, but I had a friend who was. I still have one of those things in the basement, it worked last time I hooked it up. We didn’t get touch tone phones until some time after 1985, when I got my first 1200 Baud modem. There is still a 50 cent/month surcharge for touchTone in Massachusetts! even though it costs the phone company a whole lot less than rotary dial to implement.


24 posted on 03/28/2011 3:29:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: SatinDoll

It you use a satellite dish as a receiver, you get no more dose than your neighbor who has cable, or no television whatsoever.


25 posted on 03/28/2011 3:33:22 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: cva66snipe

I came in early and unscrewed the ear piece from a guy’s phone and then called him. When he answered, he immediately knew something was wrong, because he couldn’t hear himself when he said “Hello, this is Mike R****.” He tried to get me back by hiding my phone in my desk draw and leaving a dummy on the desk. I noticed the switch and when he called, (before caller id) I calmly answered, “G’d morning, Mike.”


26 posted on 03/28/2011 3:37:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: FrogMom

Of course, if some authority decided to relocate all people from a region, then enforce that decision by martial law, in the past the people could simply vote with their feet and rebel.

The mechanisms are being placed to trace anybody who might rebel from forced relocation.

The reasonable and plausible explanations for these extremely high cost systems do not make economic sense.

They cost at least 1 to 2 orders of magnitude more than the value of any energy conserved in their implementation.

I don’t believe there is a publicly valid explanation for their implementation. It leaves many a pregnant question and too many nefarious possibilities.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 3:37:38 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You’re missing my point.

Radio waves are all around us and in use 24/7. The number of cell towers sending and receiving microwaves have grown enourmously in the past two decades. (I knew of someone who died because of microwaves in the U.S.Navy - not a nice way to go, either. Took nearly two days for him to die.)

It is silly to freak out over a transmitter on an electrical meter.


28 posted on 03/28/2011 3:38:19 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

Oh, the blessed silence you must have enjoyed.


29 posted on 03/28/2011 3:38:58 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SatinDoll

So how do you connect to the internet?


30 posted on 03/28/2011 3:40:47 AM PDT by databoss
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To: freekitty

Yes, no phone was nice.

My boss insisted I had to have one, so I got a land line.

I’ve had two cell phones in the past two years: one died long ago from neglect and the other is still in its package, though I bought it four months ago.


31 posted on 03/28/2011 3:41:28 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: databoss

Same people who supply the TV cable, which will soon be disconnected because I no longer watch TV. I will, however, maintain the computer lines.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 3:42:53 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

You really have to try to get killed by microwaves, at least from radiation. If you mess with high power waveguides you could receive a burn or shock injury.

There was a case of GE technicians in Alaska working on the FPS-49 who were near the feed horn for over an hour and had their livers destroyed. That was a very painful way to die. The injury was due to thermal effects. The body does not have internal heat sensors, the FPS-49 is relatively long wave, L-band and it cooked their livers before they knew happened. That is why we have have “lock out, tag out” these days.

How did your friend ever get a lethal dose of microwaves?


33 posted on 03/28/2011 3:46:42 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: FrogMom
"Ironically-Named ‘Smart Meters’ Prove to Be a Dumb Idea"

We had a mayor a few years back unseat a "good Old Boy" mayor who was buddies with the City Employees and their Union.

The New Mayor ran on a platform of Financial Responsibility. One of the things he vowed to change was the way the City Employees Union had ran they city (The Good Old Boy Mayor gave them anything they wanted.)

Water Bills were a big deal. He and the council decided to go with smart meters which enabled a single employee to drive through town in a single day and collect the data thus freeing up him for the rest of the week and eliminating the need for a second guy reading meters. (The job used to take two guys all week long to work)

Well the fight was on. The union howled and whined and fought the mayor on every front. Another bone of contention was paying garbage men 8 hours wages for a four hour day.

Well it ended up that the meters wouldn't work right.

Time after time people's water bills either were way too high or the meter would not work at all.

Grievances, lawsuits, and even fisticuffs ensued. Finally the Union managed to sully the Mayor's rep so bad he didn't even run for reelection.

This was a few years back. Now after a criminal investigation we find out that the reason the Union fought so hard on the water bill was that the employees were giving away free water to many People for reduced cash AND Oxycontin and Percocet and Xanex. Also it was found out the City workers Sabotaged the Smart Water Meters so they could hide their drug and money making scheme.

34 posted on 03/28/2011 3:55:43 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
How did your friend ever get a lethal dose of microwaves?

I'll take an educated guess at it. The Ray-Dome {sp} of a carrier could do it most likely. I worked on the ships cooling systems for the electronics systems. There was some nasty RF hazards on the mast including ships radar.

To check the Ray Dome I had to get an Electrocics Tech to go up with me and he had to make certain it was secured first. If someone was working in the mast an announcement went out over the ship every 15 minutes "The Mast is secure while men are working aloft".

35 posted on 03/28/2011 3:57:04 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: SatinDoll
Take one of those very large cans, the really big ones that hold tomatoes found at COSTCO, and cut it in half from top to bottom. Mount it behind the meter/tranmitter between house and meter.

Not unless you ground it. Otherwise the radio waves will find a way out.

36 posted on 03/28/2011 4:04:01 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"It you use a satellite dish as a receiver, you get no more dose than your neighbor who has cable, or no television whatsoever."

Me and the kids take no chances:


37 posted on 03/28/2011 4:04:14 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: NVDave

I suspect the number of problems with smart meter implementations will be akin to the number of cable TV interrupted transmissions.

Or in older recent times,...the number of VCRs which never had he right time, but always blinked.

Insofar as the smart meter allows the KWHr to be monitored at a point of service for the power customer, I think they are great tools.

Further encroachment, such as re-circuiting loads within the service domain, which is steadily advancing in the sate of the art, I find them to be too intrusive upon the domain of the property owner.


38 posted on 03/28/2011 4:15:30 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: FrogMom; All
This is nonsense.

As an RF engineer, and a designer of the smart meters in question, I can tell you that putting your cell phone up to your skull exposes you to thousands of times the RF field strength that a 1/4-watt RF transmitter in your electric/water/gas meter outside your home does.

My company does extensive testing on each and every type of meter we produce, determining the RF exposure. In fact, we are compelled by the FCC to do so. As long as you keep your brain 20cm from the meter when it is transmitting (which is usually about every 4 hours at the most), YOU ARE FINE.

All the rest of it is psychosomatic.

39 posted on 03/28/2011 4:28:39 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: NVDave
That said, “smart meters” have significant problems in that someone is going to figure out how to hack their bill by attacking the wireless signals. Same deal as for WiFi cracking. It can be done, and odds are, it can be done fairly cheaply.

I invite them to try it on my company's meters.

We have better encryption than the credit card companies.

40 posted on 03/28/2011 4:30:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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