Posted on 03/23/2011 7:15:35 PM PDT by TexasBarak
Found the link to this on www.thefirearmsblog.com the other day. I'm a "maker" myself, but don't hold a candle to this guy! At the top of the page is an entry or two on a Dragunov style stock he is building for a Mosin-Nagant- and down the page are several entries on the 10-round magazine he designed and built for a Mosin-Nagant!
Or the same ahole! LOL
JG sales are very good to deal with. The hex receivers are pre 1935, so you will get one that has been thru WWII and maybe you will get a bit of a rare one. Luck of the draw.
That would be cool. I'm going to do the same thing I did to my Ishapore Enfields to one of these. I bought two of the Ishapores. I kept one 'stock' except for a really good clean up and refinishing the wood. (I know, HERESY!). The other one I sporterized with a nice synthetic stock and a drill and tap for a scope mount.
If I am fortunate enough to get a rarer model I'll pretty much leave it alone except for a real good scrubbing to get the cosmoline off. The other I'll turn into a sporter and have a bit of fun with it.
I know they're not Mausers but what the heck. For a hundred bucks a piece they'll make nice little summer projects.
Thanks again. Talk to you on the other forum soon.
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“refinishing the wood”
There is an excellent stock treatment section at surplusrifle.com. Me, I do a general cleaning with a denatured alcohol scrub with 000 steel wool and 2 or more BLO (boiled linseed oil) scrubs with 0000 steel wool. (I rcommend against sanding. too much might make the top hand guard loose. don’t ask how I know!) Finsihed off with what is called “gunny paste” aka 1/3 wax which is 1/3 BLO, 1/3 beeswax, and 1/3 turpentine.
1/3 wax available at http://www.thegunstockdoctor.com
Thanks very much. I’ve used tung oil in the past but I’ll check out your solution.
Tung oil is good but puts a kind of hard shell coat on the wood. Too glossy for me. I’ve also used a beeswax/mineral oil combo after the DA scrub a with good results.
1. Take them entirely apart, even the bolt (762x54R.net has exploded views). Get rid of any commie cosmoline left in the receiver. Clean and re-lubricate with a good gun oil.
2. If you like the wood, refinish it with Tung Oil. Clean all of the old nasty varnish off, and put about 5 - 7 coats of Tung Oil, allowing a few hours between coats to dry. I did this with one of my M39's, and it looks great.
3. If you want to run it open sights (fine for an M44, and I've shot 300yd open sights with an M39), get the Mojo "peep" sights. No gunsmithing required. They mount and work perfectly. I think I paid $45 for mine, but that was about 2 years ago.
4. If you want a scope mount, STAY AWAY from the "bolt on" "no gunsmithing" type. Get a local gunsmith to drill and tap your receiver (painful I know on a classic like a Nagant), and you will have a MUCH more stable scope platform. In my humble opinion, unless you are left-eye dominant and right handed, STAY AWAY from the left-side Russian-style mounts.
5. Get yourself a good sling. Your Nagant may have come with one, but you'll be glad you got a good one.
6. If you are planning to reload 7.62x54R, go ahead and order the material (for example, from Midway USA) to "slug" your barrel. Nagant barrels do vary, and you want to measure the rifling land diameter. Mine slugged out at about .311, so I use 303 caliber bullets from Sierra and others.
Congrats on a great historical rifle.
Roger on the boiled linseed oil.
Thank you very much.
This Yugoslavian Mauser cost $99 plus the dealer threw in a canvas bandoleer which had 200 rounds on stripper clips. It is corrosive but shoots fine. They are not as well finished as the better German, Belgian, CZ etc. but are still well made and perform at the same level as any military ones.
Very nice Mosunov! WANT!
I have seen 2 receivers blown out last year at a local gun range. I own 5 of these guns used to shoot them all the time but I have retired them until I do some more research on this.
I am going to say this I suspect ammo as both people involved had mil surplus! I got a round of it tore it down and it looked as if it had been loaded with cordite the little match stick looking stuff.
>>I have fired several Nagants, and they are utter garbage compared to the M21, M24 and M40 SWS’s. <<
I know they aren’t as pretty as a Holland and Holland but would you care to step out in front of one, say at oh 500 yards and we’ll see whether they are utter garbage?
And any marksman worth his salt should be able to hit center of mass on a human at 500yds with IRON SIGHTS. The Marines have to do it at 500 METERS as part of their marksmanship qual. The US Army does it at 300m. And that is with an M16 and a 62gr 5.56mm green tip round.
Yes, those facts are correct but the whole point of buying a Nagant is the COST. The EXTREMELY LOW COST IN TODAYS WORLD. I have some expensive hardware that will perform as you might expect for the COST. The Mosin-Nagant is the type of rifle that you can leave in the deer shack over the winter. It doesn’t require being treated as carefully as you would a new born infant.
The people who buy a Nagant I think are less interested in long-range accuracy than in a cheap, just-in-case firearm that they can buy and stash in the closet until the Zombie Apocalypse.
Another attractiveness of certain Nagant models is some receivers were made before 1899, and as such are classified as "antique". As such, they do not fall under BATFE reporting requirements. Some people like the idea of having a rifle they bought for cash and which has no Form 4473 pointing at them.
As I said before, I am no fan of the Mosin-Nagant but they are as accurate as most military rifles of the same time.
The Finns re-barreled a lot of them and they were known to be unusually accurate. The Russians also used them very successfully in international competition. I suspect they were both selected for quality nad rebuilt for accuracy. Still the basic action is capable of extrreme accuracy.
The same can be said for the Springfield O3 or 03A3 or the Mauser etc.
Not my cup of tea because they are heavy and rough but they are a bargain.
I definitely agree on the Finn! And I imagine that it was kind of pricy, as well!
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