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To: bkepley

“The Rapture” is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

It is a creation of man.


6 posted on 03/22/2011 4:20:41 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: reaganator

Sorry, you are wrong.

But good luck with that erroneous thinking.


10 posted on 03/22/2011 4:25:51 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: reaganator

The words are not used, but the concept is described by Jesus himself. Look at Matthew 24.


15 posted on 03/22/2011 4:37:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: reaganator

So is purgatory, not in the original Bible.


17 posted on 03/22/2011 4:37:52 AM PDT by WaterBoard ("PBR Street Gang this is Almighty, over..")
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To: reaganator

A “creation of man?”

WHAT UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.

I gather 1 Thess is not in your Bible?

1 Thessalonians 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are ...

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. ...


31 posted on 03/22/2011 4:55:55 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: reaganator
“The Rapture” is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

It is a creation of man.

It is in it's latin form in the Latin Vulgate, (Harpazo in the Greek.) The words mean to snatch up violently. Rapture is the tranliterated english form, which does not exist in english translations of the Bible, as it has no real meaning other than in reference to the Latin translation of scripture.

63 posted on 03/22/2011 5:27:18 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: reaganator

Amen Brother!


69 posted on 03/22/2011 5:39:35 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: reaganator
Harold Camping is at it again. He once predicted Judgement Day to fall on Sept. 6, 1994.

He goes through all sorts of arithmetic contortions to arrive at his predictions, and they are always wrong. Sad. I wonder how many he leads away from Christ through disappointment?

75 posted on 03/22/2011 5:46:38 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: reaganator

You are correct. The “Rapture” is an invention of post 1800 man. Christians before that were taught (biblically correct) the Second Coming, which is what I also believe. From what I’ve heard people say, they believe there will be a “Rapture” AND a Second Coming. I do not.


77 posted on 03/22/2011 5:49:03 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: reaganator
The Latin rapiemur is Saint Jerome's translation of the Koine Greek verb ἁρπαγησόμεθα [harpagesometha], which means "we shall be caught up," "taken away," or "raptured." The dictionary form of this Greek verb is harpazō (ἁρπάζω), which is used only in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Acts 8:38.
82 posted on 03/22/2011 6:12:34 AM PDT by hfr (There aren't any English, French, or Latin words in the Bible that I know of.)
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To: reaganator
“The Rapture” is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. It is a creation of man.

The word "trinity" isn't in the Bible either...but I am assuming you believe in that. Correct?

The concept of the rapture IS taught in scripture. What varies, depending on the way you interpret prophecy...Daniel's 70th Week...The Book of Revelation...Et Al...is the timing of the event.

However...to deny the event itself is to 1) Deny scripture altogether or 2) Spiritualize scripture to such an extent as to make ALL scripture a mockery...for if "you" can spiritualize something so plainly written...this allows others to do the same (which they have done...in spades).

The event, which in English is called "The Rapture" is seen in 1 Thess 4:13-18. It is very obvious Paul is speaking of an actual event.

In that event...he plainly says that not all will sleep (die)...but that some will still be alive when Jesus returns and they will be changed (1 Cor 15:52...same event).

Paul CLEARLY teaches that those alive will put on immortality (in Corinthians) and they will be CAUGHT UP (1 Thess).

Now...in the Latin Vulgate...translated from the Greek by St Jerom, he translates the words "Caught Up" (in the KJV)...from the Greek (harpazo)..."Rapiemur."

"deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus "

So...perhaps you have some aversion to the term Rapture. So be it. All it is is an English variant of the word in Latin...which is a TRANSLATION of the word from its original in Greek...Harpazo. And that...my FRiend...you cannot deny is in the scripture. It is NOT a creation of man. You may can argue the timing is a creation of man (and it is a non-essential...and we would disagree)...but the fact a "catching up" is in teh scripture...the fact that a rapiemur is in the scripture is beyond debate.

May I also suggest that if you have problems with words that are transliterated...then you probably have a problem with the word "Jesus." After all..."Jesus" wasn't His name. It's what you and I call Him...but not what Mary....John...Peter...James...or Paul called Him. It's a transliteration...just like rapture.

89 posted on 03/22/2011 6:27:18 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: reaganator

The words “rapture” do not appear in the Bible, this is true.

However, this passage suggest something will happen to those who believe, that we will be taken away by God from this earth.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-20 (English Standard Version)

16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.


118 posted on 03/22/2011 8:19:59 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: reaganator
The "Bible" is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

It is a creation of man.

That's about as believable as the Scriptural fact of the Rapture being a creation of man.

The Greek word used in the Rapture Scriptures is harpazo and it means that the church is not only caught away by the power of God, (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17) but it will be seized by God and snatched out with a sudden violent force. So the event of the Rapture is not a creation of man, but a promise of almighty God, placed in His Bible by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

By the way, the word "Rapture" can be found in the Latin Vulgate. So God has it covered any way you look at it.

183 posted on 03/22/2011 3:12:50 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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