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The non-existent obesity epidemic is just another excuse for those who want to control our lives to get our permission to tell us how to live. Too many people are willing to go along with what the "experts" say when it comes to health. Whenever "everybody knows" something is true, that is the time to question it.
1 posted on 03/15/2011 2:38:23 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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2 posted on 03/15/2011 2:39:02 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Whom do I believe, someone who claims that there is no obesity “epidemic” (obviously a metaphor), or my lyin’ eyes. The “epidemic” is real, but so is the agenda. So, we agree 50% ;-)


3 posted on 03/15/2011 2:45:36 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Pining_4_TX
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5 posted on 03/15/2011 2:48:54 PM PDT by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
First, I do agree that folks talking about the obesity epidemic are trying to control our lives.

But I don't agree about that there isn't an obesity problem. It exists, but life-style changes won't fix it.

There is reason to believe that there is an infectious source to some of the obesity problem: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectobesity. And there are reports that show lifestyle changes don't affect it: Exercise Reduces Hunger In Lean Women But Not Obese Women.

Obesity has been tied to auto-immune diseases like fibromyalgia and autism and celiac disease. None of these are cured by life-style changes.

It'd be nice if the politicians would stop worrying about obesity and let the scientist work on the problem.

10 posted on 03/15/2011 3:10:03 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Hey, I’m in shape. (Round is a shape.)


12 posted on 03/15/2011 3:15:06 PM PDT by TexasPatriot1 (I am unique, Just like everybody else.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
One of the linked articles debunks the BMI. It does not go far enough.

As the linked article states: “It is defined as a person’s weight in kilograms divided by their height in metres, squared (kg/m2).”

However, a person's weight does not vary with the square of their height. If people grew proportionally in all directions (LXWXH), it would actually vary with the cube of their height.

People don't grow proportionally in all directions, so the weight doesn't actually vary in proportion to either the square or the cube.

If you accept (for a moment) that the BMI chart is accurate for average people — what does that mean for very tall people? It turns out, that a lot of tall people are being unfairly labeled as obese. Here's a web site that has all this worked out, and includes a handy calculator.

http://inside.mines.edu/~gmurray/BMIApplet/BMIApplet.html

Take a person 6'6” tall. According to standard BMI tables, he's obese, if he weighs over 260 lbs. However, he could pack on another 8 lbs., if the BMI adjusted for tall people is used.

15 posted on 03/15/2011 3:27:58 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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It does seem that there are far more "obese" people than I can ever recall 20 or 30 years ago. Part of the problem may be though, that if one compares today's population to the populations of the 1920's, 30's and 40s, we are comparing poorly nourished groups with well-nourished groups. During the depression as well as during WW2, many did not receive adequate nutrition, and during the depression, some were slowly starving. Look at the photos- it's clearly evident.

Today, few people walk anywhere. Food is readily available, not terribly expensive and almost impossible to avoid. Most people of driving age own a car. Yet we are living, on average, much longer than our parents, grandparents and great-grandparents. Much of this may be due to better medicine and medications, but not all of it.

Imho, the worst thing that we might do is to overreact, and allow the government to become involved. This kind of thing tends to work itself out, and as long as our average lifespan stays the same or improves, I'm not going to be overly concerned.

16 posted on 03/15/2011 3:35:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

This is an attempt at linkage. AIDS treatment costs a lot of money and is going to cost more. AIDS is linked to behavior. They’re trying to say that catching AIDS is the same as being obese. They’re just trying to justify the behavior and the cost.


20 posted on 03/15/2011 4:10:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Obesity really got, um, big, when Americans started to go nonfat. When people were preached that fat was bad, and carbs were good. Every nonfat product replaces fat with sugar or worse. They are poison, and all starchy carbs lead to fat. Most digestive problems come from grains. The stupid food pyramid says eat most of your food in the form of whole grains. It’s killing us.

We would all lose our fat, our celiac and irritable bowel issues, and enjoy our food and lives more if we give up all grains and beans. Period. And focus on organic veggies, fruits, dairy, and eat healthy animals: grass fed beef, free range, pastured chickens, wild caught fish. Cook in coconut oil, salad dressings with olive oil. Pastured butter. No other oils.

Fat is important for satiety, it tastes delicious, and our brains need it, it just has to be the right fat. The vegetable oils are rancid and poisonous.

Give up everything made from grains, and all sugary things except for dark chocolate and the occasional organic ice cream. It’s hard for only 4 days, and heaven for all the rest of your days. Which will be many!


40 posted on 03/16/2011 7:35:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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