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Posted on 02/25/2011 3:53:47 PM PST by Swordmaker
Consumer Reports’ PR person is sleeping with someone from AT&T.
>>>Consumer Reports’ PR person is sleeping with someone from AT&T.
Or an AT&T PR person is shacked up with someone at CR...
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Just professional, non profit, non advertising supported consumer advocates.
Nothing wrong with this phone at all.
Move along, move along...
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Consumer Reports was long the home of the Mac-free desktop and laptop computer review. They’ve never been particularly fond of anything from Apple. This is no different. Straining at gnats that are admittedly as much the problem of the carrier, but failing to recommend what they also admit is a fantastic phone. Par for the course for CR.
I'm disappointed that Apple didn't do anything different, but they, too, were in a spot -- they couldn't change anything without it being an implicit admission that something had been wrong.
So CR doesn't approve. Big deal, nothing changes...
It's the consumers who ultimately determine whether the iPhone4 lives or dies, not CR.
But the DO recommend the AT&T phone.
I responded to someone who accused: ‘....a CR employee of sleeping with someone from AT&T.’
Sorry you can't accuse CR of being anti iPhone when they recommend the iPhone as one of the best smart phones.
You applesauce dudes are just totally without reason.
But in the rest of the world, no one seems to have this problem... no one can duplicate Antenna gate. Apple dropped the free case program at the end of September when it became obvious it was NOT a problem beyond the artificial hype that had apparently been ginned up by Google to push Android phones in the US.
Attenuation happens on ALL cell phones when you cover up the location of the antenna on the phone with your hand. It's the nature of the beast. You lose signal when you shield the antenna... Apple and other technical sites documented it with much more sensitive equipment than CR used and showed an equal amount of signal attenuation on almost all smartphones when their antennas were covered by the user's hand in low signal areas. It was also shown by a couple of these non-Apple sites that the iPhone4 was capable of receiving a lower signal strength than many other smartphones and was the best in class in low signal strength areas. So this claim of CR's is so much BS...
No, Leo, they don't... or don't you recall the big noise they made in August when they gave the iPhone4 the highest rating ever, but did not recommend it because of the "antenna attenuation problem."
Well, if true it is a step up from my Motorola Droid. Drop or not you could never understand a word the other person was saying, so the Droid for me was only used for text messaging.
My bad.
I apologize.
I do still buy dishwashers and washing machines based upon their ratings.
I still trust them.
I still don't trust dentists.
I have a great dentist. I would never trust CR and I have never used their reports. I use to work in a Stereo Shop. Their stereo reviews sucked.
No, finding a reason to not recommend an Apple product is par for the course for a publication that has been known to completely omit Apple products from it’s purported “best” reviews in the past. Dredge up back issues and you’ll verify what I’m saying.
> But in the rest of the world, no one seems to have this problem... no one can duplicate Antenna gate. Apple dropped the free case program at the end of September when it became obvious it was NOT a problem beyond the artificial hype that had apparently been ginned up by Google to push Android phones in the US... Attenuation happens on ALL cell phones when you cover up the location of the antenna on the phone with your hand. It's the nature of the beast. You lose signal when you shield the antenna... Apple and other technical sites documented it with much more sensitive equipment than CR used and showed an equal amount of signal attenuation on almost all smartphones when their antennas were covered by the user's hand in low signal areas. It was also shown by a couple of these non-Apple sites that the iPhone4 was capable of receiving a lower signal strength than many other smartphones and was the best in class in low signal strength areas. So this claim of CR's is so much BS...
There are two factors at play here.
1. First is that Apple has a well-deserved reputation for excellence in design, and in improving their products when there is an opportunity.
In my opinion, the antenna design contributed to an attenuation problem common to all cell phones. Technically, Apple could have improved their iPhone4 design, perhaps by adding an inexpensive insulating clear-coat over the metal, in the Verizon and subsequent versions.
Then, instead of excusing the attenuation by saying "But everybody does it", they could have had a phone that performed better than the others. That's what Apple usually has done in the past. They push the state of the art forward, not make excuses.
They chose not to improve the antenna design, and I believe they made that choice for marketing, PR, and stubbornness reasons. That's what disappoints me.
2. Second is that Consumer Reports has, in my opinion, an insufficiently astute technical team to evaluate these sorts of issues. They decided to bash Apple over it initially, and they can't back down from that stance.
I consider that disreputable. As to whether they are in fact in the pay of Apple's competitors, or are merely incompetent, I have no opinion, having no solid information on which to base such an opinion.
But it's pretty clear they are not Apple fans, yet are thrilled to have a notorious connection that brings tech article mentions. CR is getting airplay, and I think that's what they were after, and are still after.
eYUP!
It is interesting to see they seem to have "upgraded" their test equipment... hehehe
CR is still using the iPhone's own five bar signal strength meter as their "highly accurate" test measure of how strong the received signal is...
I already have an iPod Touch, and the main draw of the iPhone is to combine those features with Verizon service; i.e. convenience in carrying.
If the iPhone gets as good reception as the LG phone, I'll be happy, because then I will not have given anything up to get the convenience of the iPhone.
If it gets better reception than the LG, I'll be thrilled, of course.
If it gets worse, I will have to turn it back in. I cannot justify a phone that costs that much and can't do as well as the $20 el cheapo.
BTW, I'll probably spring for a rubber bumper, if only for the mechanical protection it affords, so I don't expect to have the Antennagate issue myself. But you can bet I'll test it out of curiosity -- it's my nature to do so.
I've created a monster in Mrs. F.
In the past 2 years she's gotten:
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