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To: CougarGA7
"For the second time now I have recommended reading to you after you have asked for it and for the second time you have brushed it aside.
This tells me that you are really not interested in getting smarter on the subject or were just lying when you said you wanted more information."

First, I'll say it again: what I'm looking for is a recent book which tells the whole story, while addressing every issue, question, myth or lie that has been raised by other authors over the many years since 12/7/1941.

Now, you might be interested to learn that if you buy one of those new "Nook" or "Kindle" devices, you can download every single word of Pearl Harbor testimony, all 10,000 pages as you say -- for free.
So anyone who's truly interested, can happily spend weeks and months reading every excuse known to mankind about why our guys got caught, literally, with their pants down on 12/7/1941.

But why do that?
Why duplicate the efforts of many scholars and experts who've spent untold years studying every jot and tittle of it, who can quote large sections of it from memory, and, most important have made highly informed judgments on who was telling the truth, who was obfuscating and deflecting, and when and why they did it.

For every question and answer, there were issues, disputes and conflicting facts that can color, or texture, our understandings of what was said.
But you'll never understand those issues just by picking it up and reading.
You have to know it better than that.

And that's just what scholars are for -- it's why we have scholars.
So I say, let the scholars do their work, and I'll pay to see what they come up with.

All I ask is that they be totally honest, and at least half-way respectful of others they disagree with.

In short: "Author X is a fricken idiot" is just not an acceptable scholarly response to ideas you may disagree with.

26 posted on 02/28/2011 3:20:41 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
So anyone who's truly interested, can happily spend weeks and months reading every excuse known to mankind about why our guys got caught, literally, with their pants down on 12/7/1941.

But why do that?

If you wish to get smarter you do things like that. If you wish to just have it handed to you, then you do so at your own peril. You will be subjected to the biased of the author you chose. You have chosen poorly.

In short: "Author X is a fricken idiot" is just not an acceptable scholarly response to ideas you may disagree with.

And I have shown examples on how Stinnett and Victor are flawed in their process so once again you misrepresent me. I disagree with them because they have misused and in some cases abused their source material to twist meaning into what they wish it to be. I don't feel that I need to re-post the examples every time you make a statement. I will have to require you to go back and find them yourself. You really do just want your hand held for this, and I'm just not going to do it. You will have to do some of this work yourself.

28 posted on 02/28/2011 8:47:24 AM PST by CougarGA7
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