Posted on 02/17/2011 9:03:41 PM PST by Amos McCoy
When it became apparent that his opponent in the state tournament wrestling match would be a girl., e would be facing off against a girl, Joel Northrup, forfeited his match to her. As a home-schooled sophomore with a 35-4 record, Joel is also a Christian who takes his faith seriously. So he could not in good conscience wrestle with a girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent. If only we had more boys raised to respect the fairer sex as much as Joel has been. His parents are homeschooling him. but he has been allowed to wrestle with the Lin-Mar of Marion Iowa. So Cassy Herkelman of Cedar Falls was able to win her first match at the Iowa State High School Athletic Association State Wrestling Tournament at Wells Fargo Arena on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2011.
Her opponent, Joel Northrup of Linn-Mar of Marion, declined to wrestle her.
"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, the tournament's other female entrant) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most of the high school sports in Iowa."
His coach Doug Streicher did not speak with the media after the match. The other girl, Megan, lost her match in 52 seconds to the boy she wrestled.
Video of wrestler forfeiting match against a girl.
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Hell no. They and their parents should be deported.
I can't really argue against demanding some sort of extracurricular accommodation for people who do pay school taxes but don't send their kids to public schools in any sport where there's limited positions. But it doesn't make sense to push out an actual enrolled student and replace him with someone who doesn't attend the school in the first place, even if he/she is the superior athlete.
I still believe that school representation should mean something in high school athletics, and that there shouldn't be any more Tim Tebow situations. Nothing against the Tebows, they played within the rules, but I think it's best to not help along that kind of high school free agency.
Without having to meet the same requirements like attendance and grades, its doesn't seem apples to oranges.
I knew a family who home schooled until 8th grade with kids who were big in little league and Pop Warner football standouts, then sent their kids to public high school and supplemented with further homeschooling, so that their kids could play on the high school football team. It doesn't seem like that's an unreasonable expectation.
Yes, it might be, if you didn't think the public high school academic environment was doing active harm to your children. Being exposed to an all-day booby hatch is a high price to pay for a football program. Having to supplement that indoctrination with after-hours, after-football homeschooling is just excremental icing on the frankly-inedible cake.
(I should apologize for being so vehement... as you might imagine, I can get kind of passionate about homeschooling. Sorry.)
Nothing against Tim Tebow (as soon as he left UF I became a fan), but he was a gifted standout when he was young and started playing at a local Christian Academy in western Jacksonville his freshman year. That team didn't have a passing offense so his family wanted to find another school for him to go to so he could be a top recruit. They chose Nease High in south Jacksonville where the coach wanted him to play, and so he and his mom rented an apartment near the school so he could attend while the rest of the family lived back in their old neighborhood. The laws in Florida let home schoolers compete, so not only did he not have to be a real resident, he didn't even have to attend the school.
Parents who don't home school do this all the time with gifted athlete children, but at least they still have to arrange for the kid to attend the school.
So if the starting Nease quarterback who worked his way up to that position was bumped by a guy who doesn't even really live in your district, AND doesn't even go to the school....I don't know, I think that takes the spirit out of high school sports. Maybe I'm wrong, but if this were nationwide, top high school athletes can be recruited to go anywhere they want and they don't even have to attend the school.
Maybe this type of situation is rare, but its the first thing that came to mind when I thought about the kid in this article.
They can be required to live in the school district.
Nobody objects much to a kid going to school for academics and not sports.
Nobody forces him to participate in sports in order to participate in academics. But no one seems to mind forcing him to participate in academics to participate in sports.
Holding academic participation over a kids head in order to participate in sports is blackmail.
Other extra-curricular activities are often open to homeschoolers, things like clubs. In NY of all places, homeschoolers are permitted to borrow equipment from the schools to use in homeschooling. They're required to have their children tested for certain years.
But when it comes to sports, oh, the horror. We can't have any of this homeschoolers participating kind of thing.
Those parents pay taxes which support public schools, unlike the parents of illegals who don't. Homeschoolers are not a drain on the resources of public schools, unlike illegals.
While your attitude towards illegals is correct and admirable, reality is, they are here in this country using our resources for free and contributing nothing. And yet, because they attend the school, they can technically participate in varsity sports where the children of tax paying US citizens can't. And I'll be they are.
There is basically no valid argument against why a homeschooled child should not be permitted to participate in extra curricular activities, varsity sports included.
In four years on varsity he wrestled a total of one girl on two occassions. I don't know the exact number but I would say maybe (at that time) only 1 out of 5 even had girls on their squads.
” God’s warning against fondling ladies you are not married to,”
Wrestling isn’t fondling.
This is a pretty strong statement. I don't see why being enrolled in an institution in order to represent that institution athletically is blackmail.
High school athletics are a spinoff of the academics, not the other way around, nor are they are separate entities, which is why there are academic requirements to compete. What academic requirements does a home schooler need to meet to compete?
Does your thinking apply to college athletics too? Can I try out for the University of Texas football team (a University partially subsidized by my tax dollars) if I'm not enrolled in the school? How about if I just pay tuition but study elsewhere?
Joel forfeited a match but has scored major points in the war against children (what else would a sane person consider in sending juvenile girls into contact sports with boys?). God bless this young MAN and prosper him in all his ways.
Meanwhile, in other news, NEA thugs are rioting over benefits that nobody insimilar positions in the private sector enjoys . . .
So, is making the NFL not an option for homeschoolers? Is making the NFL only for public school kids?
That's where your position takes you. It penalizes kids who are homeschooled from the opportunities like that which public school kids have, simply by virtue of the fact that they're homeschooled.
What part of *The parents are living in the district and paying school and property taxes* escapes you?
That is what is obviously invidious about it. Not every boy can dominate every girl in physical prowess. It is then bad enough that such a boy will suffer comparing poorly with other boys in his cohort. But to be gratuitously put in a position to be humiliated is egregious.It's not just the teams she competes with who are placed in that position; the boy she displaces as the starter on her own team is in the same bind.
You know me not. I was a wrestler when I was young and in school. Had I ever made it to state and my opponent was a girl, I would have done the same thing as Joel did. I would have because I was raised that boys do not grab girls in certain parts of their bodies, something that you cannot avoid while wrestling.
Now if you would like to insinuate, as some have, that I worry about controlling my feelings or hormones while wrestling a girl you would be a wrong as it is to wrestle teen girls. We are talking teen girls and boys, not prepubescent children. Like it or not the teen years are when a boy should learn respect for women. Something the world disagrees with these days. Thus we have men who have no respect for women, and women who have no respect for men.
As for why I stated that it is for the the reason I stated that grappling with a teenage girl is for the enjoyment of others. I will tell you what I told Oberon. Like it or not it is a fact that whenever women compete against men it comes down to those who wish to watch, not the participants. It has been so since Billie Jean King ripped apart the worst excuse for a male tennis player ever, Bobby Riggs.
You must think cheerleading is disrespectful to women too.
This is the most simple and common co-ed move called a 'chair'. Guess where the guy's hand is?
I wouldn’t have thought less of him if he wrestled her, but what he did here was excellent. Definitely a guy proving who’s in charge of his life when the chips are down.
So, if a woman in a business setting challenges a guy to a wrestling match (or, to suggest something less absurd, asks him to come in her office and give her a nice backrub) he should take her up on it because otherwise he clearly is afraid he won’t be able to control himself? How about if they’re going on the road and she says, “Hey, let’s get a single room to save the company money?”
There are situations that are inappropriate for a man and a woman to be in unless they’re married to each other, and how much self-control the participants have doesn’t do much to mitigate the inappropriate stupidity of it.
Classy suggestion.
People like you, who equate a good set of sexual mores with being a terrorist, rapist thug, should just go stick your penises in a light socket and leave the rest of us alone.
Having had to help a rape victim or two put their life back together, I can tell you that only a true moron would see someone passing on a wrestling match and think of a gang rape.
If you want to compare socons to rapists and terrorists, head over to DU.
Classy suggestion.
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