Posted on 02/17/2011 9:03:41 PM PST by Amos McCoy
When it became apparent that his opponent in the state tournament wrestling match would be a girl., e would be facing off against a girl, Joel Northrup, forfeited his match to her. As a home-schooled sophomore with a 35-4 record, Joel is also a Christian who takes his faith seriously. So he could not in good conscience wrestle with a girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent. If only we had more boys raised to respect the fairer sex as much as Joel has been. His parents are homeschooling him. but he has been allowed to wrestle with the Lin-Mar of Marion Iowa. So Cassy Herkelman of Cedar Falls was able to win her first match at the Iowa State High School Athletic Association State Wrestling Tournament at Wells Fargo Arena on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2011.
Her opponent, Joel Northrup of Linn-Mar of Marion, declined to wrestle her.
"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, the tournament's other female entrant) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most of the high school sports in Iowa."
His coach Doug Streicher did not speak with the media after the match. The other girl, Megan, lost her match in 52 seconds to the boy she wrestled.
Video of wrestler forfeiting match against a girl.
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I have said for years that the day the Christians went to the city councils back in the 1800s and early 1900s with hat in hand asking for money to build, feed, cloth, and or teach the masses, was the beginning of the end of this country.
God told us that we need to teach, cloth, feed, and love one another. While the Church did these things for the needy the church was able to also give the good news of Christ. Once the city became involved and then the state and eventually the federal government the church was left out in the cold.
Now the government does what we as Christians were ordained by God to do, but instead of sharing the good news of Christ, the state says man is God. Which goes right to the humanism that you speak of. Satan understood well what Christ meant when told the apostles and crowd in His Sermon on the Mt.,
"No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." Luke 16:13
Now the one they despise is the one whom they just get lip service from once a week, while the other is giving substance in the form of food, shelter, clothing, education, and entertainment. Who do you think the masses are hating and loving?
I agree with you about the education, and I would add that Christians need to be more like the Mennonites, at least when it comes to the way they refuse to allow the government any control over their children. That is why the children who have been home schooled are the apple of God's eye's in America. Upon them He will put the burden of fighting His battles in America for the hearts and minds of future generations to come. And, why they have a bulls eye on them by Satan's minions in the government.
I will check out the references you have given me, and use them to strengthen my resolve against the enemies from within.
God bless you my FRiend,
OV, Chuck Wolk
God's blessing to you as well,
Worldviewdad
The bacon thing? Absolutely.
In both cases he would have a choice between athletic opportunity and honoring his religious convictions. In both cases he would deserve honor for choosing to honor the values his parents taught him.
You did a great job raising your boy. Please pass on to him that this veteran (and father of two girls) likes to see a man laying it on the line for his convictions.
Well put, mon frere.
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Am I understanding you correctly, your son is the one in the story?
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That is wonderful. You have raised a fine young man. I have two daughters. ;)
I’m glad you have a 1998 sign up date too. :)
My question is this: Does the decision by whichever powers that be to allow her to cross over into the male wrestling group open the door to allow a male to wrestle on the female teams?
I wouldn't think so. If there were separate teams for boys and girls then there wouldn't be an issue. But this might be the only outlet for her and she's doing fine on her own without any gender norming or affirmative action.
Also, gunrunner - do you feel females should be allowed into front line combat situations?
No, but the military is not an equal opportunity employer. If the military found that putting people with blond hair hindered combat effectiveness, I'd support their decision to make that policy. I haven't been in combat, so maybe you're question should be posed to someone who actually has experienced or commanded troops in such a situation.
But I do know a former F-18 pilot who served on the Truman who was open to the idea of women pilots as long as they could pass the exact same requirements of male pilots. I also know a female ex-Navy reservist who thinks that women shouldn't even be able to serve in the military, and I know an active duty male sailor who supports women in combat. Opinions vary, but I prefer to have those decisions made by people who actually have their ass on the line absent any pressure from political correctness.
But having wrestled, and knowing guys who both won and lost to female wrestlers, I can say that the horror stories about shame and so forth are completely overblown. Wrestling is not comparable to combat.
I'm surprised you don't have the same opinion of females in combat since you keep stressing that if a girl can compete with the boys she should be allowed to do so.
Here's a quote from a news article where they paraphrase her thoughts on the situation:
Herkelman said it would be a "lot more fun and more exciting" if girls could wrestle other girls in Iowa instead of having to face boys. She had a 20–13 record at Cedar Falls High entering the tournament and thinks it would have been a close match between her and Northrup.
As for the combat question, your statement would only be valid if wrestling and military combat were similar situations, which they're not, in any way whatsoever.
Contrary to the insults that people have been flinging around here (not you in particular), I was never advocating for a merging of the sexes in sports. I was pointing out that any kid who wrestles understands that there are very rare circumstances where girls compete, and in the absence of any girls league, a girl like Cassie should be commended for doing so well in the only route given to her. She competed on an even playing field without any sort of leg up from what I can tell and excelled. This wasn't an Annika Sorenstam fiasco where she was a token of PC.
I thought the Herkleman's were pretty classy in not saying anything negative about the boy, who basically through his actions told the girl that she didn't belong there, and that forfeiting the match was more honorable than wrestling against her in a competition that she's spent most of her life and time preparing and training for.
I think it would be best if there was a girls league, but seeing as how I'm not in charge of Iowa high school wrestling, there's not really anything I can do about it. Maybe the press surrounding this situation will shore up support and build among girls enough popularity among for wrestling that there will be a girls league. It's a great sport.
The USWGA is not her high school. If she wants to represent her high school this is the only outlet she has.
Ok I can accept that. But it isn’t like there was no opportunity for her to compete - obviously there is a state wide level for female athletes.
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