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Wind Power FAIL ( Turbines all Froze Up!....too Cold and Wet)
Watts Up With That? ^ | Feb 15, 2011 | Greg Weston

Posted on 02/17/2011 6:31:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here’s the story:

“We can’t control the weather,” Julie Vitek said in an interview from company headquarters in Houston, Texas. “We’re looking to see if we can cope with it more effectively, through the testing of a couple of techniques.”

She says the conditions in northern New Brunswick have wreaked havoc on the wind farm this winter.

“For us, cold and dry weather is good and that’s what’s typical in the region. Cold and wet weather can be a problem without any warmer days to prompt thawing, which has been the case this year.

“This weather pattern has been particularly challenging.”

Full article here

h/t to a whole bunch of WUWT readers, “TomRude” being the first.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Weather
KEYWORDS: cleanenergy; climatechange; epicfail; globalwarminghoax; windpower
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“We can’t control the weather,” Julie Vitek said in an interview from company headquarters in Houston, Texas.
21 posted on 02/17/2011 6:52:50 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wind Power FAIL ( Turbines all Froze Up!....too Cold and Wet)

No one could have possibly seen this coming. Y'all give 'em a break. Global warming is due to return in the next couple of months and everything will be fine.

22 posted on 02/17/2011 6:55:17 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: upsdriver

I was thinking they could spray the blades with some really expensive, noxious chemicals.


23 posted on 02/17/2011 7:05:22 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wind power, as in gigantic wind-up torsion spring-powered rotors, might be a better idea than those things. Imagine how many workers you'd have keeping them all wound up 24/7/365!
24 posted on 02/17/2011 7:10:40 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SouthTexas

wind farms in winter ... what a disaster!

It is possible to acually use more energy trying to electrically keep ice from forming on the blades than what the windmills generate. It is a farce.

Plus, you have the added cost of running-but-idle (”Spinning”) generation capacity that has to be ready at a seconds notice in case the megawatts from the wind farm fall quickly, or increase quickly. Someone pays the bill to keep all that standby power “spinning”. It is a huge cost.

Wind farms should be outlawed unless they incorporate energy storage (examples - compressed air, potential energy dams, etc). Also, wind farms should never be erected within 12 miles of civilization or livestock ... the low frequency noise is a major health hazard.


25 posted on 02/17/2011 7:11:22 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Green Energy is like Marxism.

It works in theory; never in the real world.


26 posted on 02/17/2011 7:12:29 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I suppose this is, to these greenies...”unexpected”?


27 posted on 02/17/2011 7:13:08 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Cicero
Wind turbines. The power source that is never there when you need it most.In the recent Houston freeze, about 80 coal and NG plants went down. Nuclear and wind generators kept on pumping ...
28 posted on 02/17/2011 7:13:27 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe they should build some nuclear plants to keep them warm.


29 posted on 02/17/2011 7:13:44 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: SeeSac

Stop this land pollution. Have you seen these eye soars? The generators have to be replaced every 13 months. The kilowatt hour is twice as much as coal and 3 times as much for natural gas generated. Stop this madness quick!!


30 posted on 02/17/2011 7:17:05 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Nobel_1
Wind farms should be outlawed unless they incorporate energy storage (examples - compressed air, potential energy dams, etc).

Believe it or not, reliability of source is considered into the grid rate base for each generation unit. If a coal plant has to come up to compensate for unexpected decrease in supply, it comes out of the wind generator rate. However, they only compensate for the average coal rate for the unit, not the extra costs to bring a plant on line.

31 posted on 02/17/2011 7:17:46 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Paint it black.


32 posted on 02/17/2011 7:18:50 PM PST by BBell
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To: Benchim
The generators have to be replaced every 13 months. The kilowatt hour is twice as much as coal and 3 times as much for natural gas generated.

I would say you were wrong and ask you for the source of your info but you would refuse saying that it was my responsibility to provide proof that you were wrong but it is late so I will just say

BS!

33 posted on 02/17/2011 7:31:04 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Re: reliability of source is considered into the grid rate base

Hum, perhaps in some states, but not all. In the analysis of the recent Texas rolling blackouts, it was reported that the 9300 MW of wind energy in Texas was not required to post the same “provide-or-pay” as natural gas or coal generation. This resulted in a burden and cost transfer to the non-wind generation capacity in the state, thus raising the overall rates in the state.

I understand twelve coal fired plants were cancelled in Texas over the past several years, while all the wind power was coming online.

Wind info:
http://windpowerfacts.info/

WSJ article on wind not paying their way:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704188104575083982637451248.html

http://www.sourcewatch.org boasts of the following cancelled coal fired plants in Texas:

Cancelled:
Big Brown 3
Lake Creek 3
La Porte IGCC Plant
Martin Lake 4
Monticello 4
Morgan Creek 3 & 4
Morgan Creek 7
Nueces IGCC Plant
Tradinghouse 3 & 4
Twin Oaks Power Unit 3
TXE Industrial Gasification Facility
Valley 4


34 posted on 02/17/2011 7:33:52 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: SeeSac

If you wait long enough, almost anything can happen. That was a highly unusual event, and reccurence can easily be prevented if they choose to do the work. But wind power is simply not reliable. It can be used as a supplementary source, but no sane power company would use it as a basic source.

And it is more expensive, unless the taxpayes subsidize it.


35 posted on 02/17/2011 7:39:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"He says the problems at Caribou Mountain are confusing, as other projects in cold climates haven’t had similar ice issues."
What is he going to think over the next ten or twenty years when his country is slowly encased in ice and snow as the patterns shift. Poor bastards are not to bright. And certainly not leaders of any caliber. Their as stupid as the jerks in Europe and the USA.
36 posted on 02/17/2011 7:41:48 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drill here, drill now.


37 posted on 02/17/2011 7:42:45 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"“We can’t control the weather,” Julie Vitek

LOL, well now there is a no sh*t moment. Producing power is tougher than they thought, you just can't make this stuff up.

38 posted on 02/17/2011 7:52:24 PM PST by WHBates
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“We can’t control the weather.”

Indeed, and that’s a major flaw with “green” energy.

There are other problems, too.

I see it, at best, as a supplement to oil based energies, which we can control.


39 posted on 02/17/2011 8:01:16 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

let’s see now...if the windmills cease to produce electricity a back up coal or nuclear power plant has to be immediately on line to take up the slack....why not eliminate the useless windmills and use the plants that are already there


40 posted on 02/17/2011 8:19:12 PM PST by terycarl (4)
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