Posted on 02/03/2011 9:17:54 AM PST by Signalman
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endadawhir, I tell ya. endadawhir...
This is due to global warming you wingnuts!!!1!11!
-AlGore
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Van Grungy says:
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get prepared to embarrass a Senator
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geo says:
Now if the *red* line dips below 0.0 anomaly, then Ill be moderately impressed.
For now, eh, better than not, I guess.
It more or less looks to me like this last el nino/la nina cycle are going to average out to back around the .2C weve been dancing around for quite some time now.
Which is still a problem for the AGWers, because its supposed to be going up .2C every decade in the relentless fashion they insist on.
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Geoff Sherrington says:
Jeff Norman says:
February 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Assuming this temperature trend is correct and taking into account that temperature is only a proxy for the heat energy in the Earth fluidsphere, where did the heat energy go? As my thermodynamics professor always proclaimed, The heat goes to Mars!
And assuming the temperature spikes back up again, where was the heat hiding?
My question also. Last time I asked it I got a few short messages saying Look at that bright object in the sky and think. However, it is more complicated than that. AGW suggests that a warming change should be irreversible in the sort term, with reduction in GHG the main way to lower the temp. Here, we have temperatures lowering with increasing GHG. The mechanism, by elimination, must be that the fluctuations we have been measuring are transient weather noise and noise goes up and down in the sort term, much as seasons do.
So, do we have a conservative system of constant total global heat content, with weather noise wiggles, or are we seeing systematic changes such as those that would result from insolation variability? (Ime leaving out geometric effects such as orbital cycles here).
One cant simply say Its wet because of La Nina, because that might mean it is less wet somewhere else. That is, ocean oscillations are not the end of the story; they are but a step among several steps when viewed globally.
Well, that’s a mixed blessing. It’s great that it gives us more ammo in the fight against the rapacious “cap and tax” legislation.
OTOH, zer0 has crippled our energy industries, and we’ll all go broke and/or freeze if we do have another mini ice age.
It’s hard to decide whether to be happy about it or not.
But, I guess it's finally here...
Ruh roh!
Here it comes.
Then we switched to La Nina. The US eventually followed into cold this fall/winter. Now the entire globe is colder then normal. The last La Nina resulted in up to a negative 5 % anomaly in water vapor density. So the atmospheric density decreased and so did its heat capacity. Right now the question is when will this winter end ? We have another major blast of Arctic air coming this Sunday night and we were supposed to warm up before then.
See #12.
There are a number of variables.
The Redwood region started the rainy season a month early and was at 130% of normal on Dec 31st. We have only had 3 or 4 days of rain since Jan 1st and stand at 102% of normal for the water year (7/1 to 6/30) that Calif uses. We are having a False Spring and loving it plus the early rains were great to get the Salmon up our rivers early.
Forgot to add, that these current La Nina conditions, appear to be dropping incredible amounts of moisture in the US. That is unusual. That is something new and may be related to Cosmic Ray theory or possibly a new Ocean Effect snow pattern similar to the Lake Effect.
And I sure would trust these sat measurements a lot more then what we get from the very limited surface measurements taken by GISS. Hansen is toast.
The graph represents, in a timeline from a mere 20,000 years, a flick of dust on a mile-long graph. In the context of a measly five million years (not much geologically speaking), it would be a mere speck on a vast graph ten times wider and millions of miles long.
We are on the earth along for the ride. For all we know, in two years the temperatures in the western U.S. could drop to where they probably were 500 or 600 years ago -- damned cold. Snow. Imagine the havoc that would wreak on food production (California feeds a lot of the U.S.) and human mortality (the entire population of Australia about matches the population density of the lower southern coastal segment of the state).
Climatologists are talking out their arses.
We restocked on light long underwear. Have a feeling it's going to be an especially cold winter.
I remember a winter or two as a kid so cold that it froze mud puddles on the waterfronts of the central California coast, just south of Big Sur. Doesn't happen very often. At least not in our piddling lifespans!
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