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Using trust to steal (Utah Affinity Fraud)
The Standard Examiner ^ | 02/03/2011 | Editorial Board

Posted on 02/03/2011 5:35:46 AM PST by Utah Binger

One consequence of Utah being a mostly Mormon state is that the potential for affinity fraud can be higher than in other states. A fraudster can use his activity or status within the Mormon Church to fool church members into trusting him. An example of this in Ogden was Val Southwick, who cheated investors out of millions. Fortunately, Southwick sits in prison now.

Of course, affinity fraud is not confined to the LDS Church. Probably the best-known case of massive affinity fraud is that committed by Bernie Madoff, who is alleged to have defrauded investors of up to $50 billion. Madoff was Jewish, and used his religion as a recruiting and status tool. He is also in prison today.

Nevertheless, trust is still too often used to fool gullible people, including many senior citizens, who are the most vulnerable of investors. According to the FBI, about 4,000 Utahns lost $1.5 billion to fraud last year. We need tougher penalties to go after these predators who use smooth talk, flattery and deception. One solution toward making it easier to punish these criminals is Senate Bill 101, sponsored by state Sen. Ben McAdams, D-Salt Lake City.

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TOPICS: Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: affinityfraud; hucksters; mormons
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Too much of this happens in all religions. It is especially noticeable in Utah where trust is magnified in these tight communities called "wards".
1 posted on 02/03/2011 5:35:54 AM PST by Utah Binger
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To: JRochelle; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/03/2011 5:38:28 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

My favorite cartoonist


3 posted on 02/03/2011 6:32:14 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: Utah Binger

I think part of the problem is that the LDS people are just so darn nice and trusting.

Then too, they have been taught to judge situations with their feelings rather than their heads.

The combination makes them easy pickings for scam artists.


4 posted on 02/03/2011 6:34:54 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: T Minus Four
I think part of the problem is that the LDS people are just so darn nice and trusting.

DUH!

That's a GIVEN; being MORMONs already!

5 posted on 02/03/2011 6:48:20 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Of course, that’s a generalization. Some are bitter and strident.


6 posted on 02/03/2011 6:50:47 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: T Minus Four

We used to live in Los Gatos California. Back then I was still slightly involved. In that upscale ward there were two major hucksters that really took a couple of older women for a great deal of money. One of them became the bishop. I heard later that he had been excommunicated for something or other.

The other was a closet polygamist. Mankind is imperfect but the church is trooooo.


7 posted on 02/03/2011 6:55:35 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

Who’s the old dude with the cane in the cartoon?


8 posted on 02/03/2011 7:11:19 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("This administration has turned off America's beacon to the world for freedom and left darkness")
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s not me. I’m a sleek and handsome young dude. I think he is the gullible soul that just got taken to the cleaners with the help of his bishop looking on. LOL


9 posted on 02/03/2011 7:22:18 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger
Sure reminds me of

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10 posted on 02/03/2011 7:38:10 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("This administration has turned off America's beacon to the world for freedom and left darkness")
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To: Utah Binger
It is especially noticeable in Utah where trust is magnified in these tight communities called "wards".

Or is it the mental ability of those mormons who BELIEVE a convicted con-man 'translated' an ancient book by stuffing his face into a hat and looking at a smooth pebble?

11 posted on 02/03/2011 7:45:34 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39
In the words of Henry Higgins: "I think she's got it; by jove she's got it"!
12 posted on 02/03/2011 7:45:40 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Godzilla
BELIEVE a convicted con-man

That too.

13 posted on 02/03/2011 7:47:28 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

Rip-off artists often see Christians as easy marks... That needs to change. Yes, Christians need to ‘forgive’ but not before serious repentance on the part of the ‘sinner’. God is forgiving - he can see into the human heart - we can’t. And to act like we can is to assume we’re on God’s level. The term blasphemy comes to mind.


14 posted on 02/03/2011 7:52:19 AM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: Godzilla

“Probably the best-known case of massive affinity fraud is that committed by Bernie Madoff, who is alleged to have defrauded investors of up to $50 billion....”

Neither Madoff, nor, for that matter, Smith and his followers ever saw, much less took the amount of money taken by a certain scam called Social Security. It was asocial (if not downright anti-social) and there was no security in it.

Mere chump change pikers compared to the Social Security scam.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 8:14:42 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GOPJ

You’re correct about that I believe. One of the best Christian con men was/is the so called “Painter of Light” who continues to hood wink the network of Christian groups where he has actually made people think his reproductions are investments.

I also have witnessed how the con men in the Mormon communities are able to get very close to unsuspecting believers. Also there are lots of get rich quick pyramid schemes presented.

Holiday Magic
Nu-Skin

Etc.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 8:15:44 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: greyfoxx39

OH. MY. HECK.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 8:33:26 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: greyfoxx39

OH. MY. HECK.


18 posted on 02/03/2011 8:33:35 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: Utah Binger; greyfoxx39

Hey, check out the pcture of Jesus in that cartoon!!!!!


19 posted on 02/03/2011 8:35:34 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: Utah Binger
I’m a sleek and handsome young dude.

I testify and affirm the TRUTH of the above statement.

--PDWannBee(If you don't believe ME; you can look it up for yourself! http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss354/elsieel/zipperboy.jpg )



20 posted on 02/03/2011 1:01:12 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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