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Posted on 01/27/2011 9:39:07 PM PST by FromLori
I’m surprised how persistently I see the dubious assertion that the Chinese “can’t move away from the dollar because they own so many of them”. A related argument is that they are “stuck in dollars because of the trade deficit”. They certainly can move away from the dollar, though, by continuing to do what they are already doing. This will bring them to a point where they will be positioned to transition away from the dollar, possibly rapidly. Here is what I mean.
Assume China has $2 trillion in total dollar reserves. By “dollar reserves” I mean mostly Treasury securities (Treasuries) and to a lesser extent Agency securities (Fannie and Freddie) and cash dollars. However, for the purposes of this discussion, they will be considered one and the same, and can just be called “Treasuries”.
At the same time many observers are closely watching the US-China trade balance, and China’s purchases of Treasuries, we know the Chinese are buying gold and every sort of natural resource they can get their hands on around the globe. Some of this is public, but probably not all (maybe not even a majority). Yet, those pointing to China’s holdings and accumulation of dollars rarely mention it.
This can be considered “cashing out” of the dollar, in a sense. As for the current level, I’d be surprised if they’ve even “cashed out” $500 billion worth of their dollar holdings–or about a quarter of the total assumed here.
So, that’s a mere minority of their total dollar holdings, China-US “status quo” trumpeters say. The impression I get is that these people think it’s basically pointless for China to be buying hard assets. Yet, this minority share of their total portfolio doesn’t imply that the Chinese are a huge support for the dollar going forward.
That’s because what they are buying — precious metals and natural resources — are inherently valuable, regardless of what happens to the dollar. That is the key part — no one is considering what happens if the dollar’s value changes radically… downward. Yet that is exactly the situation one would want to prepare for in the long term, if one expected a major global “portfolio rebalancing” away from a dominant reserve currency like the dollar.
To see why this matters, let’s imagine the Chinese reach $750 billion in hard assets, valued in today’s dollars.
Then imagine that at this point, they decide they have plenty, and are tired of propping up the dollar, so they “pull the plug” in one of a myriad of ways (probably a statement saying they will simply cease buying Treasuries would be enough, but it could also involve some outright selling in unexpected, large quantities).
A 50% fall in the dollar wouldn’t be out of the question in such event. Horrible for the Chinese, right? They hold so many dollars…
But look what happens to their “portfolio”… the $750 billion in hard assets becomes worth $1.5 trillion, and the Treasuries (while they have the same nominal value) shrink in buying power on a relative basis from $1.25 trillion to $625 billion. The overall portfolio is now nominally valued at $3.75 trillion. That sure doesn’t seem so bad for the Chinese.
Using a more meaningful comparison, imagine that gold starts out at $1000/oz, and the entire $750 billion in hard assets is in gold. Then the Chinese hoard is valued at 2 billion gold oz equivalent before the devaluation. After devaluation, it would (if purely in dollars) be valued at only 1 billion oz. But since they were wise enough to “cash out” $750 bln into gold prior to devaluation, they end up with 750 mln oz of gold + $1.25 trillion, worth 625 mln oz of gold, for 1.35 bln oz gold equivalent value.
You see where this is going. The Chinese can easily capture a large portion of the “value” of their present dollar holdings through devaluation by moving them into hard assets … arguably even if the (dollar) value of the hard assets a priori is a minority of the total portfolio.
One a deeper level, there is no realistic way to move all of the dollar portfolio into hard assets. Commodities and precious metals markets are simply too small (that even goes for currency markets… nothing comes close to the dollar paper market for depth). There is a maximum practical amount that can be “cashed out” before the dollar starts plummetting and its real value approaches zero. Put another way, it’s impossible to buy 2 billion ounces of gold with the $2 trillion in dollars we started with. China’s challenge, then is to buy as much as they can before the devaluation process gets along too far.
Given that, I think they are doing amazingly well. Most commodities are not even back to 2008 peak levels (gold and silver are a weak point, at new highs since then). But the dollar value “lost” from their holdings can be seen simply as a hidden premium to converting their stash to hard assets. In truth, they will be doing immeasurably better than any nation dumb enough to still hold primarily dollars in its Forex account when this moment comes.
I’m not claiming the Chinese are actually at the tipping point now. But it is obviously the direction in which they are going. Should this trend continue (and there is no reason to believe it will not), a point will come in the near future at which the Chinese benefit more from ditching the dollar (letting it collapse) than propping it up.
The current impact on the market is likely muted — intentionally — by the manner in which the Chinese are going about their hard assets deals. Many are taking the form of long-term contracts where dollars are pledged in exchange for resources (such as oil), as they are output. The impact of such a deal is not felt immediately on the dollar or commodity market, yet the Chinese can basically “earmark” portions of their dollar portfolio as “allocated to hard assets” every time they do such a deal. As a result, in the future, the commodity will be marginally more scarce, and the dollar marginally less desired, which suits China fine from their perspective.
Mining and agricultural deals are similar, as future supply is bought up in the present, at a fixed dollar price. Should the dollar fall, China has both secured a portion of production the commodity involved in the deal, and they don’t care a whit what the dollars are worth which they previously used to purchase the producing property.
It is also rumored that Chinese agents are going to the commodities exchanges, using their Treasuries as collateral to control commodities contracts. This indirectly secures ownership of the commodity, without having to actually sell Treasuries.
The above analysis leaves one thing unaccounted for: the value of the Yuan, and the ongoing US-China trade deficit. Should the Chinese ditch the dollar with gusto, they will need to let the Yuan float (or at least readjust its value upwards). This will remedy the US-China trade deficit, as well as quell inflation in China. Most analysts point out that China stubbornly is not revaluing the Yuan (some even argue it isn’t undervalued, a claim the Big Mac Index belies).
That is true… now. But should China be in recognition of the “tipping point” I am describing, such a point would naturally be a good one to start revaluing the Yuan. Then the infamous Chinese stubbornness against letting the Yuan rise would magically change. Perhaps that stubbornness is precisely because they are waiting for this point — the Chinese authorities are not stupid; they know the Yuan is fundamentally valued too low.
Seem unlikely? Then I will close by pointing out that virtually every major world power has announced its arrival on the global scene with a strong currency, not a weak one. And many influential Western analysts and power brokers, not to mention the Chinese, have made no secret of the fact that they expect China to truly “arrive” soon.
Perhaps, then, it is all planned out.
The world isnt only about dollars and cents, it be foolish to imagine everyone is motivated solely by money. To some, power and anything of intrisic value, whatever that might be could be of interest. Maybe to the Chinese, selling their bonds will impact them, but under the right circumstances, the reward might outweight the risk.
Remember, the Free Trade crowd here on FR have always said 'those dollars will come back"
Yep, they will.... just like the Soviets did when they knew they were going to have a bad harvest.
*The Chinese believe the world is going to get hit with large meteors in the very near future.
If they don’t come back, where do they go? It’d be ideal if they evaporated, given the way our government spends them.
Since we don't accept yuan for wheat/corn/soybeans etc, that wouldn't help them very much.
Remember, the Free Trade crowd here on FR have always said 'those dollars will come back"
If they bought Treasuries and agency securities, those dollars already came back. If they sell the securities and buy our products, will the protectionists whine more or less?
No, the meaning of the word “diplomacy” won’t change, we’ll just be forced back to it’s original meaning. “Give me what I want and I won’t hurt you too badly.” Oddly enough, isn’t that what the IRS says to us on an annual basis?
It was mentioned on another thread that China is buying water from the Great Lakes. Some say wars will be fought over it.
Water, Not Oil Could Soon Become the World’s Greatest catalyst for Conflict
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I thought you might find this interesting
according to Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory episode
*The Chinese believe the world is going to get hit with large meteors in the very near future.
I didn’t know that they believed that. That’s a game changer. But meteors could hit anywhere, including the USA.
I guess E&I bonds are the better bet then because they’re at least a holder may redeem them without a discount.
This is the first that I’ve heard of China thinking we’re about to get hit by a very large meteor.
Got a link or source I can see?
That, and this:
“On a deeper level, there is no realistic way to move all of the dollar portfolio into hard assets. Commodities and precious metals markets are simply too small”
The old, owe a grand, and the banks own you. Owe a million and you own the banks. I hope the Chinese keep sabre rattling and driving down the value of the dollar so I can buy more.
CHINA’S DOLLAR CONCERNS
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/28/chinas-dollar-concerns/?test=latestnews
New global reality calls for new shared norms in world
“The world pattern has gradually changed, as the G20 is becoming a more noticeable player in global governance.”
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-01/26/c_13708523.htm
In the event of a 1929-style crash, whoever has cash and hard assets can buy stuff here really cheap.
That should be the tip-off right there...
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