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Citizen's Voice: Time to repeal 2nd Amendment
knoxnews.com ^ | Jan 22, 2011 | Frank Greene

Posted on 01/22/2011 6:55:59 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae

The recent Arizona tragedy has, of course, brought the entire issue of firearms control to the front of our national consciousness, along with the usual assortment of bloviators, pundits and podium thumpers. At the risk of being considered one of them, I would like to offer several alternatives to address the problem.

n Repeal the Second Amendment. At the time of its writing and through the early 1900s, The United States was a nation of largely isolated communities that depended on their own initiative for mutual security.

That time is clearly passed...

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To: Travis McGee

ONLY BAD PEOPLE HAVE GUNS! I am a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY bad person.


41 posted on 01/22/2011 8:17:19 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The 30 is for the 30 round clip it holds.

I know, everybody says clip.

42 posted on 01/22/2011 8:17:50 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Dayman
It's good that quislings are identifying themselves. Take note of who they are. These are the people who will betray you and your family. They have no regard for your rights.

...and you can bet the farm that this man owns guns.

43 posted on 01/22/2011 8:19:15 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Popman
I always ask him "if the 2nd amendment is up for grabs why can't the 1st amendment" be up for grabs

The left claims that the root cause of the Tucson shooting was "hate speech" and "conservative vitriol," so it would only make sense that the first amendment should be repealed as well.

44 posted on 01/22/2011 8:20:33 AM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: seowulf
The left claims that the root cause of the Tucson shooting was "hate speech" and "conservative vitriol," so it would only make sense that the first amendment should be repealed as well.

Well then, using 'leftylogic', if the 1st were repealed you wouldn't need to repeal the 2nd because people would no longer get mad and go on shooting rampages. Silence conservatives and all will be well.

45 posted on 01/22/2011 8:27:45 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

” A brand new Keltec PMR 30. The 30 is for the 30 round clip it holds. You keep your threat of force and I’ll hang on to my PMR 30 thank you very much. Jackwagon!!!”

It’s a magazine, not a “clip.” And since it shoots .22’s, proper shot placement is essential. Here is another opinion of the Keltec PMR 30:

When would you arm yourself with a weapon that would require possibly dozens of hits to incapacitate an attacker? When you can score all those hits with a single pull of the trigger! I.E., with a shotgun.

.22 rimfires can be highly deadly against humwn-sized targets, but this lethality is typically caused (slowly) by blood loss. Mountain lion hunters love the .22 magnum for its ability to slowly bleed out these pelt animals without agitating them excessively. They usually just sit in their tree and bleed out.

This is not how you want to disable an attacker. Incapacitation by organ trauma and neurological shock (or extremely rapid catastrophic blood loss) is the way to end an attack quickly and defend your life.

Such incapacitation would typically require multiple hits from a gun like this. These projectiles, at this velocity, CAN cause instant incapacitation in the form of #4 buckshot pellets. One trigger pull equals 27 small hits. And usually equals nearly instant death.

But you’re kidding yourself if you think you’ll be able to put 30 quick successive hits into your aggressive target in a stressful situation. Even a bump-fired AK takes three or four seconds to empty 30 rounds into a hillside, good luck putting more than a handful of those into a target.

This gun might be a great plinker, but skip it for self defense in favor of something capable.


46 posted on 01/22/2011 8:36:37 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: houeto
...and you can bet the farm that this man owns guns.

That's what he claims. If it's true then that makes it all the more sad that he takes the anti-freedom position that he does.

Even the directors of the brady center claim to own firearms. They do it because it gives them some sort of twisted "street cred" with soccer moms and people on the fence about gun control.
47 posted on 01/22/2011 8:39:16 AM PST by Dayman
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To: deoetdoctrinae

911 = Government Sanctioned Dial a prayer


48 posted on 01/22/2011 8:43:41 AM PST by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
Repeal the Second?

Literally over my dead corpse...

49 posted on 01/22/2011 8:55:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

To the colonel:

Doomed to repeat the lessons of history, and all that.


50 posted on 01/22/2011 8:56:00 AM PST by pogo101
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To: kittymyrib

Yup. “When seconds count, the police are minutes away”


51 posted on 01/22/2011 8:59:18 AM PST by pogo101
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To: SVTCobra03

“This gun might be a great plinker, but skip it for self defense in favor of something capable.”

A weapon is only as good as the person using it. You have to be able to be proficient and confident in the weapon you use. I have a Ruger P85 which will blow you to Hell and back but its large and heavy. I cannot physically handle it with proficiency however the lighter weight weapon with no recoil works great for me. And don’t kid yourself .22 mag weapons kill people every day of the week. Don’t buy into the myth that a small caliber weapon isn’t deadly. It is. At 10-15 ft I’m not going to need 30 rounds I just like the Hell out of it. LOL!!


52 posted on 01/22/2011 9:03:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: seowulf
The left claims that the root cause of the Tucson shooting was "hate speech" and "conservative vitriol," so it would only make sense that the first amendment should be repealed as well.

I'm sure the left would have no problem repealing the 1st as long as they get to only repeal conservative speech

53 posted on 01/22/2011 9:22:49 AM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Good for you!

I just knew some poster would jump at the chance to denigrate small caliber firearms.It is not how big the gun is but if you have it and can use it;that 4" .357 has the best stopping power record I know of for pistols but it is a little bulky for concealed carry wheras a nice slim .380 is much lighter and concealable.

54 posted on 01/22/2011 9:24:23 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Somewhere, an AF Wing is missing its mascot.


55 posted on 01/22/2011 9:28:48 AM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Can't agree more.

I tried to get my wife a .40 cal Taurus so she could be proficient in at home self defense, it was simply too powerful for her to handle. Too much recoil to re-aim and hit a target consistently

Having fire power does nobody any good if you can't aim and shoot multiple times and hit your target. If anything if you miss you have a real good chance of having it used against you

I finally bought her a nice Mark III Ruger .22

Almost no recoil and she can hit center of the target very nicely. She can fire off six or seven round in a under 10 seconds and nobody is going to be standing up with 6 to 8 rounds center mass.

56 posted on 01/22/2011 9:37:45 AM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Venturer

When seconds count, Police are only minutes away.
***Almost tagline worthy. I’ll put it in my list of taglines to consider, the next time it comes up.


57 posted on 01/22/2011 9:43:31 AM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Idiot should do a little research, knives, baseball bats, fence post, screwdrivers, cars, poison, tire irons and air planes have all been used to KILL with.

I’ve been waiting 20 nearly 21 years for the fence post ban, after all it was used to kill my defenseless child.

By a sociopath who wanted to see what it felt like to kill.

And since he got a lousy 20 yr plea bargain, and is now a free man, I had to fight for every one of those 14.5 yrs he served. I CCW for my PROTECTION.


58 posted on 01/22/2011 9:47:40 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: SVTCobra03
...you can score all those hits with a single pull of the trigger! I.E., with a shotgun.

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Civilian-legal.

59 posted on 01/22/2011 9:48:46 AM PST by Citizen X_Area 51
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To: IrishCatholic

You would wait that long in Memphis! We have shootings nightly with at least 2-3 homicides a week.


60 posted on 01/22/2011 9:50:29 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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