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Freezing Winters In Europe Could Be The Norm
IceCap ^ | 1/21/2011 | Oliver LeJeune

Posted on 01/21/2011 7:24:31 PM PST by Signalman

Colder winters could become the norm in Europe over the next 20 to 40 years, US-based forecaster Weather Services International said Tuesday.

“We have recently noticed a change in [weather] patterns back to what we had in the 1950s and 1960s in Europe… We’ve had three cold winters in a row in the UK,” WSI's chief meteorologist Todd Crawford told Platts.

“We believe there is a strong likelihood that it’s going to hang around for the next 20 to 30 years.”

If true, the findings could have important implications for the European energy markets, where demand typically increases during winter because of higher heating and lighting requirements.

Peak electricity demand hit an all-time record in France at the beginning of December, and was near its historic record in the UK, amid temperatures that were more than 10 degrees Celsius below the seasonal norm.

Natural gas and gasoil demand also soared. Behind the freezing temperatures is the North Atlantic Oscillation, a climatic phenomenon that normally sends wind from western European countries to the east, keeping cold air from the Arctic at bay. But in December the current was flowing in the opposite direction, bringing cold Arctic air to western European regions and sending energy demand to fresh highs.

“During the last 30-40 years, the NAO was predominantly positive resulting in much warmer, wetter winters,” Crawford said. “Starting in 2008, however, the NAO has sharply reversed to a much more negative state and the result has been quite notable with three straight cold winters in the UK.”

WSI said the reversal in the NAO could be due to three factors: recent cyclical changes in North Atlantic ocean temperatures; climate change, which results in warmer Arctic air and sends cold air southward to Europe; and a “weak” solar cycle.

AMO (Annual Atlantic Temperature Anomalies (normalized) versus the annual AMO (normalized)). Enlarged here.

Crawford said all factors were potentially at play, but that reduced solar activity may turn out to the main culprit. “Our current solar cycle has been the quietest in at least 70 years, and there is some valid concern that there may be significant cooling going forward,” he said.

“We feel that the NAO has entered a cyclical negative phase, and will likely be predominantly negative for the next 20 to 40 years. This doesn’t mean every winter will have negative NAO, just most of them,” he added.

Talking to Platts Tuesday, UK national weather service the Met Office said: “There is a large amount of variability in the NAO… any long-term predictions of the NAO are speculative.” “That said, there are avenues of research being pursued to improve our understanding and ability to make such predictions in the future.”

Electricity traders said Tuesday the colder-than-usual temperatures seen last December were still being treated by market operators as an anomaly, and would unlikely result in higher prices next winter.

“That's interesting… but you certainly wouldn’t trade off information like that,” a trader at a large UK utility said. “It is something that must be considered going forward,” a second trader said. “But the problem in the past has been that many people state they are an authority on weather, and actually distinguishing the good from the bad can be quite difficult.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: agwscam; freezing; globalcooling; icecap
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1 posted on 01/21/2011 7:24:37 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman
IMHO the very definition of Winter is to have temps below freezing.

Check out the latitude of Europe vs. the US or Russia or Canada and get back to me.

2 posted on 01/21/2011 7:27:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Signalman

I guess cold weather is the surest sign of global warming you can have.


3 posted on 01/21/2011 7:27:02 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 7:28:06 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Signalman

Ummm, if true - food prices will be going waaaaay up.


5 posted on 01/21/2011 7:29:13 PM PST by GOPJ (How Liberal Journalists Think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3hbPtCttc)
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To: Signalman
;climate change, which results in warmer Arctic air and sends cold air southward to Europe;

The stupidity of that sentence fragment boggles the mind...

6 posted on 01/21/2011 7:32:23 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Signalman
"Talking to Platts Tuesday, UK national weather service the Met Office said: “There is a large amount of variability in the NAO… any long-term predictions of the NAO are speculative.” “That said, there are avenues of research being pursued to improve our understanding and ability to make such predictions in the future.” "

Yet they'll claim that we'll all be cinders in a hundred years.

They cannot see how clownish they look.

7 posted on 01/21/2011 7:33:29 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Signalman

Google “interglacial maximum”

Same thing has been happening over and over for the last 800,000 years or so.

Enjoy those warm summer days while you can!


8 posted on 01/21/2011 7:38:51 PM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: Signalman

Global Norming.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 7:40:21 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: Signalman

I saw some show about speed skating which talked about some kind of skating marathon held on the canals of Holland, in years when conditions allow it. It had been some years since it had been held. I don’t suppose the canals froze this year did they?


10 posted on 01/21/2011 7:45:17 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Signalman

Pardon my stupidity, isn’t it SUPPOSED to be freezing in winter?


11 posted on 01/21/2011 7:45:26 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: Mariner

I recall winters circa 1958, 1960 in western PA as being much more harsh than today, with three feet of snow in the driveway being the norm. It was a big deal to shovel out the driveway. We got enuf snow to build snowmen, today we do not get that same amount of snow, and how many snowmen do you see getting built today.


12 posted on 01/21/2011 7:45:34 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Signalman

All those frozen wind turbines & snow covered solar cells are gonna be worthless in winter. Better start chopping wood.


13 posted on 01/21/2011 7:46:51 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Signalman

This is where the globull warming nuts start investing in European petroleum and coal futures.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 7:48:43 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: Signalman
Then Europe better get busy building more windmills. Since they are outlawing fossil fuels to fight the dreaded scourge of global warming, they will probably need a couple million whirligigs scattered about. Dumbkofs.
15 posted on 01/21/2011 7:49:05 PM PST by JPG (There is hope for America and her name is Sarah Palin.)
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To: I_Like_Spam

Global warming...there ain’t nottin it can’t do.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 7:50:32 PM PST by rsobin
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To: Paladin2

Most of the british/irish isles are mostly between 40 and 60 degrees F year round, historically. Latitude has nothing to do with it. Ocean currents and air currents are the driving force. In ireland, if per chance the air temps reach 60F, everyone strips their clothes off and dives into the ocean.


17 posted on 01/21/2011 7:52:07 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: GOPJ

Ummm, if true - food prices will be going waaaaay up.

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Not necessarily.

I think the real cold weather kills a lot of the bugs, and if the bugs being killed feed on the crops, it might increase it.

Further, even if it wasn’t so cold, it would still be too cold to grow anything. I think temps during the growing season are a lot more critical as far as food supply.


18 posted on 01/21/2011 8:01:12 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: mamelukesabre
"Latitude has nothing to do with it."

Just wait until the Gulf Stream Stops.

19 posted on 01/21/2011 8:07:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: I_Like_Spam
You're right... Why "Freezing Winters In Europe Could Be The Norm" egads! Who would've thought?! Next thing you know, it'll be hot and humid in the summer! Talk about rapid climate change, why, someone should do something... this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!*



(*) For those too young to remember, that was Otter, in "Animal House."
20 posted on 01/21/2011 8:07:26 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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