Posted on 01/20/2011 2:36:00 PM PST by dynachrome
If Senate Majority Leader Reid won't let health law repeal go forward, what should Republicans do now?
Stand up to Reid -- Propose the legislation and force Reid and the Democrats to publicly reject it.
Don't go there just yet -- Work the other side of the aisle and see if you can get a few Democrats to vote for repeal.
Make it THE 2012 campaign issue -- Clearly, this Senate won't play ball, so send Democrats the message: Last November was no fluke.
Drop it and move on -- We've spent too much time on this issue. Let's focus on solving the nation's other problems.
I don't care -- It's all about politics, not about us.
Other (post your comment).
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The current Continuing Resolution expires the first week of March so since it has to be renewed then attach the repeal to it.
The Senate would then have to vote on it and if they voted against it then they are voting to shut down the Government.
The first and third choices are pretty much the same.
“if they voted against it then they are voting to shut down the Government.’
And of course it would be the ‘pubs fault, according to all the marxist media.
Whatever possible within their power. Anything that can be done to help medicare but not controlled by the government.
Not sure what’s wrong with what we had and what was so bad about it.
It’s been working for years.
Just have to keep the bureaucrats hands
out of the till, same with SS.
They use SS funds like it’s their own money. Now they want our savings and IRAs?
Of course but, they get blamed for everything so what’s one more added to the list?
McConnell ‘assures’ Senate vote on repealing health reform
The Hill ^ | 01/19/11 | Michael O’Brien
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:46:26 PM by matt1234
The Senate’s top Republican promised a vote in that chamber to repeal healthcare reform following a successful House vote on such legislation Wednesday evening.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he would “assure” a Senate vote on legislation to undo Democrats’ healthcare reform law, despite Senate Democrats’ opposition to holding such a vote.
“I want to congratulate our colleagues in the House on this important first step. I hope the Senate will soon follow suit with a vote of its own,” McConnell said in a video release following the successful 245-189 vote in the House to repeal the healthcare law.
“The Democratic leadership in the Senate doesn’t want to vote on this bill,” McConnell added. “But I assure you, we will.”
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My post in the above thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2659953/posts?page=30#30
To: matt1234
Bottom line excerpt from Heritage article below:
“If the supporters of a full repeal of Obamacare don’t use the Senate’s rules to force a vote on full repeal, ____don’t take them seriously____ when they say they are really want to repeal President Obama’s de facto government takeover of health care.” bttt
How to Repeal Obamacare in the Senate
Heritage ^ | 1/18/11 | Brian Darling
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:11:46 PM by markomalley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2659142/posts
This week the House will pass a bill to repeal Obamacare. Congressional experts will argue that the Senate won’t pass a full repeal. They are correct to argue that full repeal will not be passed by both the House and Senate in the next few months, but they may be wrong that a full repeal bill will not pass in this Congress within the next two years. If Senators don’t take two procedural steps this week, they will make it virtually impossible to ever get a vote on the House-passed full repeal bill this Congress.
The House will pass H.R. 2 this week. Once that bill is passed, it will be sent to the Senate for consideration. Once the Senate receives the bill, any Senator can use Rule 14 to object to the second reading of the bill. This procedural objection will “hold at the desk” the House-passed bill and allow the Senate to act on the full repeal measure.
If the bill is referred to committee, it will never get to the Senate floor. This procedural objection by one or a number of Senators will stop the bill from being referred to the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee (HELP). If the bill is referred to committee, there is little to no expectation that the committee will pass the bill, let alone have one hearing on the bill.
Objecting to Rule 14 would hold the bill at the desk of the Senate and would put H.R. 2 on the Senate calendar. This procedure could be done with a letter or call from one Senator to the party leader. This would allow the Senate Majority Leader to commence debate on the matter when he so chooses. It is unlikely that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D–NV) would move to proceed to the bill, yet there is a procedure that any Senator can use to force a debate.
Any Senator can use Rule 22 to commence debate on H.R. 2 if they have held the bill at the desk. Rule 22, the filibuster rule, states:
Notwithstanding the provisions of rule II or rule IV or any other rule of the Senate, at any time a motion signed by sixteen Senators, to bring to a close the debate upon any measure, motion, other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, is presented to the Senate, the Presiding Officer, or clerk at the direction of the Presiding Officer, shall at once state the motion to the Senate, and one hour after the Senate meets on the following calendar day but one, he shall lay the motion before the Senate and direct that the clerk call the roll, and upon the ascertainment that a quorum is present, the Presiding Officer shall, without debate, submit to the Senate by a yea-and-nay vote the question: “Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?”
And if that question shall be decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and swornexcept on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and votingthen said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of.
If any Senator can gather 16 signatures on a cloture petition, then they could file that petition with the clerk of the Senate. This would commence a proceeding that would end with a vote requiring 60 votes to shut off debate on a motion to proceed to a full repeal of Obamacare within two days of the filing of the petition. It is expected that Senate liberals would use Rule 22 to filibuster a full repeal of Obamacare. This would put many Senate Democrats in the interesting situation of voicing support for so-called “filibuster reform” while at the same time using the filibuster rule to block an up or down vote on Obamacare.
Once a bill is held at the desk, they can gather 16 signatures, then wait until the appropriate time to file cloture. They could do so next week or next year. If the courts continue to declare parts of Obamacare unconstitutional and the American people continue to despise this law, then the probability of full repeal may go up over time. At a minimum, Senators have the power to force a vote on full repeal of Obamacare if they have the will to do so.
If the supporters of a full repeal of Obamacare don’t use the Senate’s rules to force a vote on full repeal, don’t take them seriously when they say they are really want to repeal President Obama’s de facto government takeover of health care.
30 posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:35:10 PM by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them” 7/19/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2659953/posts?page=30#30 bttt
and
2. Attach 0bamacare repeal to the debt ceiling increase.
Attach the healthcare repeal law to any funding of the Department of HLS , EPA , Commie radio NPR, TSA, and the Department of Education... that should be fun to watch the liberals whine.
Don’t go there just yet — Work the other side of the aisle and see if you can get a few Democrats to vote for repeal. 6.81% (4,397 votes)
Make it THE 2012 campaign issue — Clearly, this Senate won’t play ball, so send Democrats the message: Last November was no fluke. 19.77% (12,765 votes)
Drop it and move on — We’ve spent too much time on this issue. Let’s focus on solving the nation’s other problems. 4.42% (2,856 votes)
I don’t care — It’s all about politics, not about us. 1.6% (1,030 votes)
Other (post your comment). 0.74% (475 votes)
Total Votes: 64,557
Let's see if the Pubbies have any 'nads. (I won't hold my breath).
Stand up to Reid — Propose the legislation and force Reid and the Democrats to publicly reject it.
66.71% (46,719 votes)
Don’t go there just yet — Work the other side of the aisle and see if you can get a few Democrats to vote for repeal.
6.75% (4,729 votes)
Make it THE 2012 campaign issue — Clearly, this Senate won’t play ball, so send Democrats the message: Last November was no fluke.
19.81% (13,876 votes)
Drop it and move on — We’ve spent too much time on this issue. Let’s focus on solving the nation’s other problems.
4.41% (3,090 votes)
I don’t care — It’s all about politics, not about us.
1.58% (1,108 votes)
Other (post your comment).
0.73% (510 votes)
Total Votes: 70,032
Stand up to Reid — Propose the legislation and force Reid and the Democrats to publicly reject it. 66.42% (62,626 votes)
Don’t go there just yet — Work the other side of the aisle and see if you can get a few Democrats to vote for repeal. 6.85% (6,458 votes)
Make it THE 2012 campaign issue — Clearly, this Senate won’t play ball, so send Democrats the message: Last November was no fluke. 19.79% (18,661 votes)
Drop it and move on — We’ve spent too much time on this issue. Let’s focus on solving the nation’s other problems. 4.51% (4,257 votes)
I don’t care — It’s all about politics, not about us. 1.64% (1,547 votes)
Other (post your comment). 0.79% (744 votes)
Total Votes: 94,293
MAKE THEM OWN IT!
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