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1 posted on 01/15/2011 7:53:25 AM PST by syriacus
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yes and yes, and the Indian shaman could have been chanting to mother earth and father sky for Loughner instead of 6 innocents


2 posted on 01/15/2011 7:55:06 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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What if Wonder Woman was there and deflected the bullets with her bracelets?


3 posted on 01/15/2011 7:57:44 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Possibly not a clean opportunity to stop the initial shooting of Giffords, but definitely could have significantly shortened the subsequent rampage.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 7:57:52 AM PST by dirtboy
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According to a friend who passes that Safeway twice every day, I believe she said that she said it’s been reported on their local news that a retired LtCol inside the store had a concealed handgun. She said he was in the Safeway when the shots rang out. He ran to the front of the store, but when he appeared outside with his weapon drawn, he was stopped by two men who were unsure of his motives. By then, the 15 seconds of shooting was over, and Loughner was on the ground being subdued.

I’ve not heard any mention of the LtCol nationally.


6 posted on 01/15/2011 8:02:53 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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IMHO, he used true gun control. If its not safe to shoot, you shouldn’t. Especially in a crowd of hysterical people. He did the right thing. If I recall, he was also in his 70’s. With this current administration, he would be in jail now for a trigger pull.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 8:07:17 AM PST by goseminoles
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Of concern to any CCW holder is the presence of other CCw holders and LEO’s. Should someone start shooting in say a crowded shopping mall, you draw your gun and shoot him. The guy goes down and now you are left standing holding a gun. OTher CCW holders and LEO’s hearing shot’s fired and trying to make their way through panicing pedestrians see you shoot a guy. What are you going to do to avoid being shot? How do you know that guy approaching you with gun drawn isn’t another shooter? How do you know the guy you just shot wasn’t himself a CCW/offduty LEO?


9 posted on 01/15/2011 8:13:56 AM PST by fso301
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Reports suggest the shooting was pretty quick. It’s hard to react quickly to an unexpected incident.

Remember when the guy in Seattle went into the donut shop and managed to shoot 4 police officers, and only one managed to get a shot off?

And with the crowd around, it might have been difficult to get a clean shot off.

I don’t think this incident is a good one for suggesting guns would have helped. Of course, that’s because a group of onlookers took positive action and disarmed the guy. If he had had a second gun instead, that would have ended badly, and having a gun would have been a help.


10 posted on 01/15/2011 8:15:27 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I have wondered that if she had been threatened prior why there was no security in the first place???


15 posted on 01/15/2011 8:29:59 AM PST by alisasny
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More general knowledge about weapons may well have been helpful. Most pistols don't work so well when someone has a grip on the slide and that easily could have been accomplished in a crowd.
17 posted on 01/15/2011 8:34:31 AM PST by Tucsonican
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your supposition is a non starter.....

just sayin.....


21 posted on 01/15/2011 8:38:37 AM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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Owning and being able to shoot is one side,the game changes when facing a armed opponent at close range shooting at you,She needed some Ex Cops or Military.


22 posted on 01/15/2011 8:46:00 AM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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This is all academic as if they were trained, proficient, and armed they most likely wouldn't be Democrats.
29 posted on 01/15/2011 9:03:42 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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Just a guess, but she would have gotten shot, and then laughne would be dead, no other people harmed.


31 posted on 01/15/2011 9:10:27 AM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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Doubtfull

Consider the entire rampage was over in only seconds

CCW holder would have had to been close in near Giffords &
others, would have had to have a clean shot at the shooter

Problematic

Or course could have “double tapped” the POS afterwards to
save cost of trial....


35 posted on 01/15/2011 9:21:07 AM PST by njslim
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“What would have happened, if Gabby’s assistants had guns and knew how to use them?”

run the other way!


36 posted on 01/15/2011 9:27:35 AM PST by kenmcg
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No.

The shooter should have been taken out of circulation a long time ago.

43 posted on 01/15/2011 9:45:52 AM PST by verity
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I was listening to the local talk radio station and they had a gun owner who said if he was there, he would have pulled his pistol and shot the gunman down.
I cringe when I hear people talk like this. If a person would have be stupid enough to pull his piece durning something like this, it could have been worse. Unless he is trained in how to handle it, he would have gotten “buck fever” and started shooting blindly, causing more deaths. The local PD would have showed up, see two men with pistols blasting away at each other and decide that it was a team of nutjobs and shoot them both.
Would have been better to try and tackle the guy or something like that.
Too many wanna be Rambos out there.


44 posted on 01/16/2011 1:57:17 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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