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Promises of Electric Vehicles?
Contra Costa Times | December 11, 2010 | Vlado Bevc

Posted on 12/11/2010 3:38:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor

 

 

Promises of Electric Vehicles?

 

Vlado Bevc

Synergy Research Institute, P.O.Box 561, San Ramon, California 94583

 

 

The promotion of General Motors Chevy Volt by three mayors (Contra Costa Times, November 6, 1010) merits some mundane evaluation from the energy standpoint. Electric vehicles –with an internal combustion engine assist – are compared to a “typical car” using 13 cents of $3.00/gallon gasoline per mile, that is one that makes 23 miles per gallon. (13/300 = 0.0433 gallon/mile)

 

In a conventional car 25 percent of 37 kWh from a gallon of gasoline gets into traction (because of losses in the engine and drive train). “Conventional car” thus uses 0.4 kWh/mile and so does any comparable car.

 

Reader Coughlan (CCT, November 13, 2010) correctly pointed out that at  residential electric rates of 40 cents/kWh the energy cost is “about 10 cents/mile” rather than 3 cents/mile (above calculation shows 16 cents/mile). Moreover, Chevy Volt has a 435-pound battery costing $8,000 which wears out after 100,000 miles. That adds 8 cents to the energy associated operating cost of the electric car.

 

PG&E also has an experimental tariff designed for users of electric cars through which all of us are subsidizing electric vehicle owners.

 

Electric power plants supplying energy require from 3.5 to 4 kWh of thermal energy to generate 1 kWh or electrical energy. Thus the 0.4 kWh used by the electric car requires 1.6 kWh to generate. Energy wise we are at the same place as with an internal combustion engine.

 

About 70 % of electric power generating plants America use coal. At heating value of 3 kWh/lb, 1.3 pounds of coal is needed to generate 1 kWh. As coal is 80% carbon 3 pounds of carbon dioxide is emitted in generating 1 kWh of electric energy. In other words, electric vehicles cause production of 1.25 pounds of carbon dioxide per mile.  On the other hand, an equivalent conventional car using 0.0433 gallon/mile emits 0.78 pounds of carbon dioxide per mile. Electric cars thus cannot reduce emissions of carbon dioxide to which climate changes are wrongly attributed.

 

The mayors say 500,000 electric vehicles in the Bay area would reduce costs and emissions dramatically. As shown no cost reduction can happen. Moreover, if 500,000 electric vehicles using 500 gallon/year producing 4 tons of carbon dioxide each were eliminated, there would be 2 megatons of carbon dioxide emissions less. This would be only 0.4 percent of the annual fluctuation (48,000 megaton) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which totals about 3 million megatons, an insignificant amount.

 

Particularly unreasonable is the hint that electric vehicles while parked in employee parking lots could be running their gasoline engines to feed energy it back to the network. Efficiency of any electrical generator is proportional to the fourth power of its dimensions, hence a number of small power generating stations would waste more energy than a normally sized electric power plant.

 

Vlado Bevc

925 683 9254

 


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: caenergy; carboncult; carbonfootprint; electriccars; electricvehicles; greenreligion; hybridvehicles; physics; volt
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To: SeeSac

> “Huh?

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Flunked chemistry?

Because of the free O2 supplied by the AIR pump, the catalyst converts all of the sulphur present in the exhaust to anhydrous acid, thus the choking odor usually present on steep highway upgrades.


81 posted on 12/12/2010 12:13:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac

> “The ‘article’ is full of false and misleading statements. Two thumbs down.”

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One of your thumbs is in your anus, and the other is in your mouth - you just switched thumbs.

What are your other qualifications?
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82 posted on 12/12/2010 12:17:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Because of the free O2 supplied by the AIR pump,

What air pump?

83 posted on 12/12/2010 12:17:33 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
One of your thumbs is in your anus, and the other is in your mouth - you just switched thumbs.

I am sure you are impressing your bf with that post.

84 posted on 12/12/2010 12:21:27 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

> “Probably the reason no one but this kook brings it up.”

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No, it was in reply to the feature article that had highlighted that absurdity.

The article was so stupid that it appeared that you had written it.


85 posted on 12/12/2010 12:22:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac

> “What air pump?”

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The one required by law on gasoline powered IC engines installed in vehicles intended for sale in the US.


86 posted on 12/12/2010 12:24:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
The one required by law on gasoline powered IC engines installed in vehicles intended for sale in the US.

No air pump is required on gasoline powered IC engines installed in vehicles intended for sale in the US and no air pump is installed.

87 posted on 12/12/2010 12:30:58 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

You’ve just proven that you’re an idiot.

They have been required since release of the 1975 model year, and all gasoline powered cars have them, and without them the catalyst could not function and would quickly become plugged.


88 posted on 12/12/2010 12:33:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
They have been required since release of the 1975 model year, and all gasoline powered cars have them, and without them the catalyst could not function and would quickly become plugged.

This is 2010, not 1975. Smog pumps are not required and are not installed.

89 posted on 12/12/2010 12:39:56 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
Me: No air pump is required on gasoline powered IC engines installed in vehicles intended for sale in the US and no air pump is installed.

You: You’ve just proven that you’re an idiot. They have been required since release of the 1975 model year, and all gasoline powered cars have them,

Actually, smog pumps were introduced in 1866 and have since been discontinued. Catalytic converters were introduced in 1975. Check your facts.

90 posted on 12/12/2010 12:56:30 PM PST by SeeSac
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Typo. 1966


91 posted on 12/12/2010 1:02:53 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor

You missed again. The smell is hydrogen sulfide, not sulfuric acid.


92 posted on 12/12/2010 1:20:55 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Hey Einstein, the catalyst will not function without an air injection system.


93 posted on 12/12/2010 2:10:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac

I guess you can be forgiven on this one, but Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is an anhydrous acid.


94 posted on 12/12/2010 2:13:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac
Perhaps you and editor-surveyor, could assist those of us without a scientific background, by agreeing to a set of facts and a few helpful conclusions, such as, for example: only nuclear power offers a foreseeable feasible source of power for mass market electric vehicles.

This would be helpful, since this is largely a public policy forum.

95 posted on 12/12/2010 2:38:21 PM PST by Praxeologue (io)
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To: editor-surveyor
I guess you can be forgiven on this one, but Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is an anhydrous acid.

I see you looked it up on your 'break'. But it is in black and white that you said the problem was sulfuric acid:

The biggest problem is the catalytic converter that emits sulphuric acid.

96 posted on 12/12/2010 3:20:42 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
I guess you can be forgiven on this one, but Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is an anhydrous acid.

I see you looked it up on your 'break'. But it is in black and white that you said the problem was sulfuric acid:

The biggest problem is the catalytic converter that emits sulphuric acid.

97 posted on 12/12/2010 3:21:07 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
Hey Einstein, the catalyst will not function without an air injection system.

Then you better go tell the EPA that no car makers put smog pumps on their cars anymore.

98 posted on 12/12/2010 3:22:47 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Kennard
Perhaps you and editor-surveyor, could assist those of us without a scientific background, by agreeing to a set of facts and a few helpful conclusions, such as, for example: only nuclear power offers a foreseeable feasible source of power for mass market electric vehicles. This would be helpful, since this is largely a public policy forum.

Perhaps you should direct your post to e-s. It is his thread.

99 posted on 12/12/2010 3:28:12 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor

>Hey Einstein, the catalyst will not function without an air injection system.<

Please tell Ford. Here is a list of parts for my emission system.


Canister
Connector hose
Connector pipe
Connector tube
EGR tube
Egr system
Egr valve
Emission system (PCV Valve)
Hose assy
Lwr oxygen snsr
Purge valve
Solenoid
Tube assy
Upr oxygen snsr
Vapor canister
Vapor hose
Wire

http://www.partswebsite.com/fordpartswebsite/?i=2&make=123&model=1272&year=2008&catid=10018&subcatid=20050&section=2&type=parts


100 posted on 12/12/2010 4:07:32 PM PST by SeeSac
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