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Promises of Electric Vehicles?
Contra Costa Times | December 11, 2010 | Vlado Bevc

Posted on 12/11/2010 3:38:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor

 

 

Promises of Electric Vehicles?

 

Vlado Bevc

Synergy Research Institute, P.O.Box 561, San Ramon, California 94583

 

 

The promotion of General Motors Chevy Volt by three mayors (Contra Costa Times, November 6, 1010) merits some mundane evaluation from the energy standpoint. Electric vehicles –with an internal combustion engine assist – are compared to a “typical car” using 13 cents of $3.00/gallon gasoline per mile, that is one that makes 23 miles per gallon. (13/300 = 0.0433 gallon/mile)

 

In a conventional car 25 percent of 37 kWh from a gallon of gasoline gets into traction (because of losses in the engine and drive train). “Conventional car” thus uses 0.4 kWh/mile and so does any comparable car.

 

Reader Coughlan (CCT, November 13, 2010) correctly pointed out that at  residential electric rates of 40 cents/kWh the energy cost is “about 10 cents/mile” rather than 3 cents/mile (above calculation shows 16 cents/mile). Moreover, Chevy Volt has a 435-pound battery costing $8,000 which wears out after 100,000 miles. That adds 8 cents to the energy associated operating cost of the electric car.

 

PG&E also has an experimental tariff designed for users of electric cars through which all of us are subsidizing electric vehicle owners.

 

Electric power plants supplying energy require from 3.5 to 4 kWh of thermal energy to generate 1 kWh or electrical energy. Thus the 0.4 kWh used by the electric car requires 1.6 kWh to generate. Energy wise we are at the same place as with an internal combustion engine.

 

About 70 % of electric power generating plants America use coal. At heating value of 3 kWh/lb, 1.3 pounds of coal is needed to generate 1 kWh. As coal is 80% carbon 3 pounds of carbon dioxide is emitted in generating 1 kWh of electric energy. In other words, electric vehicles cause production of 1.25 pounds of carbon dioxide per mile.  On the other hand, an equivalent conventional car using 0.0433 gallon/mile emits 0.78 pounds of carbon dioxide per mile. Electric cars thus cannot reduce emissions of carbon dioxide to which climate changes are wrongly attributed.

 

The mayors say 500,000 electric vehicles in the Bay area would reduce costs and emissions dramatically. As shown no cost reduction can happen. Moreover, if 500,000 electric vehicles using 500 gallon/year producing 4 tons of carbon dioxide each were eliminated, there would be 2 megatons of carbon dioxide emissions less. This would be only 0.4 percent of the annual fluctuation (48,000 megaton) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which totals about 3 million megatons, an insignificant amount.

 

Particularly unreasonable is the hint that electric vehicles while parked in employee parking lots could be running their gasoline engines to feed energy it back to the network. Efficiency of any electrical generator is proportional to the fourth power of its dimensions, hence a number of small power generating stations would waste more energy than a normally sized electric power plant.

 

Vlado Bevc

925 683 9254

 


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: caenergy; carboncult; carbonfootprint; electriccars; electricvehicles; greenreligion; hybridvehicles; physics; volt
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To: editor-surveyor
Efficiency of any electrical generator is proportional to the fourth power of its dimensions, hence a number of small power generating stations would waste more energy than a normally sized electric power plant.

Did this dude just make this up?

61 posted on 12/11/2010 9:44:09 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor

Your dear VB is apparently some anti-military peace kook.

http://books.google.com/books?id=oQYAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=%22synergy+research+institute%22&source=bl&ots=GlyYLMBC8X&sig=3I7AvSqEfyvaNlmvzmcH8gOXdiM&hl=en&ei=1F4ETdSRNIOBlAeVxdGuDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22synergy%20research%20institute%22&f=false


62 posted on 12/11/2010 9:53:03 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
Dr Bevc is an Electrical Engineer living in Damville, California

Dr. B's Synergy Research Institute employs one person and has annual revenues of $62,000.

63 posted on 12/11/2010 9:55:47 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: eCSMaster

The Volt is a gas-electric hybrid. It will use the gas engine to provide power for that air conditioner or heater.

Selling the Volt as an electric car is just a blatant lie. It is a hybrid, just like the Prius. The only difference is that the Volt can be plugged in to recharge the batteries.


64 posted on 12/11/2010 9:59:12 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: matt04
The batteries last 100,000 miles at cost 8K

The batteries have a 100,000 mile warranty. They are expected to last much longer. As for cost, the old dude has no idea what the cost will be in ten years when the first batteries will start the replacement cycle.

65 posted on 12/11/2010 9:59:26 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
The biggest problem is the catalytic converter that emits sulphuric acid.

Huh?

66 posted on 12/11/2010 10:03:51 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
Also, he was discussing the Volt, which doesn’t work that way.

” When the brake pedal is applied (foot comes off accelerator pedal) the Electric Traction motor switches to a “Generator”. The “Generator” mode of the traction motor creates a reverse torque force to the front wheels…..slowing the car down. The reverse torque force is caused by the traction motor “Generator” making electricity which is directed into the battery. ” ….General Motors

67 posted on 12/11/2010 10:22:24 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Trteamer
Can someone please explain to me how 1.3 pounds of coal produces 3 pounds of carbon dioxide.......It just doesn’t sound right....

CO2

Carbon is 14, Oxygen is 16. CO2 is 46. 46/14 = 3.2

68 posted on 12/11/2010 10:25:56 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: MediaMole
The only difference is that the Volt can be plugged in to recharge the batteries.

Not exactly. With the volt, you can drive 40 miles on batteries alone. If you drive less than that per charge you never run the engine except when the computer says to to keep it 'happy'. Also, the engine will completely disengage from the drive train in the Volt.

69 posted on 12/11/2010 10:28:52 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
Dr Bevc

Where did this dude get his PhD? And what was it in?

70 posted on 12/11/2010 11:02:31 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor

Your Dr. calculates that the available wind power in the US is less than 12,000 MW ..... BUT there is already more than 35,000 MW of installed wind generation.


71 posted on 12/11/2010 11:17:51 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor

BTTT


72 posted on 12/12/2010 3:15:27 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: editor-surveyor

Anyone that owns one of these jokes, deserves all of grief that it brings!

If it doesn’t have an internal combustion engine; forget it!!


73 posted on 12/12/2010 8:58:52 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SeeSac

> “Where did this dude get his PhD?”

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UC Berkeley.

> “And what was it in?”

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I believe it was some branch of electrical engineering. He is known as an expert in utilities and energy:

http://www.almexperts.com/expertsbio/Vladislav-Bevc-/5851#videoDiv


74 posted on 12/12/2010 11:55:32 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
http://www.almexperts.com/expertsbio/Vladislav-Bevc-/5851#videoDiv

I saw the button above:

Add your listing now

Which area do you want me to add you in as an expert.

75 posted on 12/12/2010 11:59:31 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: editor-surveyor
UC Berkeley.

I thought that UC Berkeley PhDs were the lowest of the low on FR.

76 posted on 12/12/2010 12:00:23 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Trteamer

> “It just doesn’t sound right”

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Did you forget that CO2 also has two oxygen atoms, in addition to the carbon?
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77 posted on 12/12/2010 12:00:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac

> “I thought that UC Berkeley PhDs were the lowest of the low on FR.”

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Actually, I don’t think that FR has gone into the academic accreditation business yet, but in engineering, UC Berkeley is ranked fourth nationally I believe.


78 posted on 12/12/2010 12:04:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeeSac

> “Which area do you want me to add you in as an expert.”

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Replying to empty-headed trolls on FR.
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79 posted on 12/12/2010 12:05:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Replying to empty-headed trolls on FR.

That is truly your expertise as you have not responded factually to any of my points.

80 posted on 12/12/2010 12:09:36 PM PST by SeeSac
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