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King's lover Wallis Simpson was 'miserable, second-rate American woman' [Abdication 74 years ago]
UK Daily Telegraph ^ | 10 December 2010 | Andy Bloxham

Posted on 12/10/2010 10:24:24 PM PST by iowamark

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To: kalee

You can be a Puritan scold if you want. I see it as classic Romanticism, like Tristan and Isolde. The fact that their love endured after they were both middle aged makes it all that more poignant.
By the way, Camilla’s husband had been flagrantly unfaithful to her for years, but I guess that doesn’t count.


61 posted on 12/11/2010 4:10:36 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ZinGirl

You need to reread the book if you think it was love.


62 posted on 12/11/2010 4:11:56 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

you need to reread my post....including the word “imagine”.


63 posted on 12/11/2010 4:14:35 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: kitkat
She was an illegitimate child whom no man would claim to be her father, according to the author of the book.

That author is incorrect. Her parents weren't married when she was conceived but soon married, and he died of TB when Wallis was still a baby.

64 posted on 12/11/2010 4:27:13 PM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

One of the media history books I read recently said that the American public couldn’t get enough of the abdication story and demanded as much coverage as possible. Newspapers, radio, magazines, newsreels - that’s all the news consumer wanted to read/hear about.

Meanwhile, Hitler’s rise to power was ongoing, but received much less coverage.

I suppose the modern-day parallels would be Michael Jackson and such similar stories.


65 posted on 12/11/2010 4:31:54 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: kabumpo

I am not a Puritan, lol and anyone who knows me knows that.

However adultery whomever is engaging in it is NOT romantic. It is a destroyer of lives and families.

I guess we just agree to disagree.


66 posted on 12/11/2010 4:35:07 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: abb

You’re exactly right...


67 posted on 12/11/2010 4:53:34 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: iowamark
Wallis Simpson was branded a 'miserable second-rate American woman' by BBC founder Sir John Reith after he learned Edward VIII was to abdicate to marry her, it has emerged in his diaries.

Did Sir John carry an unrequited boner for Edward VIII?
68 posted on 12/11/2010 4:58:51 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Holy crap, what’s that thing in the middle of her face?


69 posted on 12/11/2010 5:00:52 PM PST by aruanan
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To: abb

70 posted on 12/11/2010 5:09:19 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: kalee

This was not suburbia. This was a dynastic marriage in the aristocracy. Which means its also a job. Its unfortunate that Dianw chose to make it into a soap opera about her. I feel sorry for everyone who had to have a clise petsonal relationship with her.


71 posted on 12/11/2010 8:28:28 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

See page 154.

Manipulating The Ether: The Power Of Broadcast Radio In Thirties America
By Robert J. Brown

http://books.google.com/books?id=12dk9bizqIAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=manipulating+the+ether+robert+brown&source=bl&ots=KG5pAfVEug&sig=3m7HD9v63o4fA1t7GqzQaE0wOF4&hl=en&ei=vb0ETfiEOMGblgec4MTYCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false


72 posted on 12/12/2010 4:39:35 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: kabumpo

Marriage is not a job, it is a sacrament and I doubt God distinguishes between aristocratic adultery and that which occurs in the suburbs. There are those pesky 10 Commandments which are read in church at Morning Prayer as a reminder. The admonishment against adultery is clearly in there.

You have brought up Andrew’s adultery. So? That’s an excuse?
Adultery is a destroyer and look at the destruction this “soap opera”as you call it wrought. According to you Diana turned this into a soap opera, what would you have preferred? That she retire quietly to a nunnery as they did in the old days. She told the truth there were always three people in her marriage.

Maybe Charles and Camilla should have told the truth and sat down with Andrew and Diana before their marriages to spell out their intentions to continue their “romantic relationship”. Charles could have said... “I fully intend to exercise my aristocratic princely prerogative during my marriage. If you have any objections to your wife or husband disregarding the admonition that we forsake all others and cleave only unto you now is the time to speak up. Andrew, old fellow, even though I am your Prince, it won’t cost you your rank and Di your face isn’t yet on the tea towels.”

BTW...As an Anglican, not a Puritan, my husband and I made the same vows that Charles and Diana and Camilla and Andrew made. I am blessed that my husband is a man of his word and made them with full intention of honoring them and me.

As I said before I guess we agree to disagree.


73 posted on 12/12/2010 8:15:52 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: abb

Thank you


74 posted on 12/12/2010 8:26:16 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: kalee

Royal marriage is diiferent, and everyone in England knows it. Yes, Diana shoyld have kept very quiet and worked on her worthy causes. Her carrying on and creating a psychodrama starring herself just made it harder for everyone. That disgusting, treasonous interview she did about three people in the marriage showed her to be a dangerous lunatic. Her silly death did not come a moment too soon.


75 posted on 12/12/2010 8:54:04 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: VOA

yes. It is powerful and makes one do irrational things. And it is addictive, and people who haven’t experienced it can’t understand its power.


76 posted on 12/12/2010 9:01:01 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (whatever)
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To: kabumpo

I have family and friends in England. I know what they think and believe.
Anyone who thinks that the death of a young woman, the mother of young sons who dared to speak out against a personal wrong, was fortuitous is not someone with whom I care to engage in conversation. I think we are finished.


77 posted on 12/12/2010 9:29:46 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

If you have family and friends in England then you should have a better understanding of the duties and protocol involved in marrying into the royal family. Instead you appear to have obtained all your information about the world from the lower order of women’s magazines.


78 posted on 12/12/2010 11:16:18 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

I don’t read “women’s magazines” lol
As I said I believe our conversation is finished. Have a nice day.


79 posted on 12/12/2010 11:20:15 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: iowamark
Actually, this King was a traitor. Mrs. Simpson was only an excuse to rid England of him.

Edward VIII The Traitor King

80 posted on 12/12/2010 11:27:45 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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