Posted on 12/01/2010 6:06:28 AM PST by decimon
The secret service agent who threw himself into President Kennedy's car at the moment of his assassination, Clint Hill, has published a book about the events.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
“I was a repeat Expert Shooter in the Marines”
Can’t shoot a bolt gun 3 times in 6 seconds. Wow. Too uncoordinated? I didn’t know the marines had such low expectations.
That's a two-round grouping of about 10" with one flier shot (visible miss) at 100 yards. Come to think of it, Oswald would have been heading for 'Unk' with that score on the *200* yard Rapid Fire course had the assassination of President Kennedy instead been USMC rifle qualification. Look at Oswald's rapid fire scores: His own qualification log book shows that he shot several orders of magnitude more precisely on a stationary target much further away using a rifle that had no telescopic magnification.
The shooting in Dallas on the day the President was murdered was perfectly within the capability of Oswald's demonstrated proficiency. If he had his USMC-issue M1, he could have probably killed or wounded everyone in Kennedy's car.
This was not a difficult feat of marksmanship.
So, you shot an M16 on a target range. Ever shoot a bolt gun? Ever? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn’t be making such absurd statements.
I have owned a number of variations and the fit and finish is of as high a quality as some of the best pre-70 Winchesters I own.
They were far from 'crappy'.
You cannot with the weapon Oswald used on a moving target. The rifle he used is an Italian POS. No one could duplicate it genius! You need to start looking at the facts before you start running your trap. Like I said... Idiot!
Hey Idiot... The M16 A3 (the rifle I used at PI) was not the same as Oswald. You only have the pull the charging handle once. Oswald’s after each shot you had manually reload the weapon. Thus, it throws you off target if you ever knew anything about shooting.
Sam Giancana winks.
It’s a moving target. It’s hard to hit a moving target with rifle that requires a manual reload for each shot (because it bumps you off target).
They are stationary targets in a very controled environment. There is no comparison.
Your childish theories about bolt guns is clobbered by real world experience. You should get out more often instead of mouthing off about things you obviously have no experience about. Stupid people should just shut up.
"Stupid people" are very vociferous indeed. In point of fact, they elected a black, unqualified, inexperienced community organizer to be president.
Never underestimate the power of ignorance. In the last general election, they kicked your butt!
Must be a grand feeling to be smarter than the rest of us...and a big loser to boot!
Yeah okay... LOL! You are either a child or nuts.
Except that when his head exploded he went forward. If you look at the two frames of the Zapruder film showing immediately before and immediately after the impact of the head shot, Kennedy's head clearly goes forward with the impact of the blast before it snaps backward. I used to be convinced that there were multiple shooters, and still believe there may have been, but I no longer believe that the Zapruder film shows that Kennedy was shot from the front.
Interesting comments on Amazon about the book.
Never looked at the comments until just now. I agree with you.
Examine the JFK assassination's marksmanship forensics; the determination is that considering the downhill shot from the 6th floor of the TSBD along with the gradual downhill slope of Elm St heading towards the Stemmons Freeway, Oswald's sight picture focused on JFK's limousine was almost static without the vehicle traveling laterally across the telescopic sight's field of view to any significant degree.
In short, this means that JFK was practically stationary in Oswald's low-powered magnified sights.
One shot at 44 yards, the second at 88 yards on a slow-moving motorcade, resulting in a 10" group. Oswald even missed once because of obstruction at the closest range, but he murdered the President because he was a thoroughly capable rifleman using a thoroughly capable military grade service rifle.
I’ve never fired a Carcano, but I’ve fired 6.5 mm Mausers, and they are very accurate. They are easier to shoot than the 8mm Mausers. If a 6.5 mm Carcano did not have a worn barrel, it should easily be capable of the accuracy needed for the shots made from the 6th floor window.
We don’t know if Oswald used the 4X scope or the iron sights, but it shouldn’t be too hard to make those shots that were under 100 yards. Especially the last, fatal shot, that was made when the target was moving almost directly away from the shooter. It’s true that the target was moving away, but by then the relative movement was small. The two previous shots, thought closer, were probably harder to make.
Oswald probably used the stacks of textbook boxes to stabilize the Carcano, which would almost be like shooting from a bench rest. I think it’s likely that Oswald could get one accurate shot out of three with a bolt-action rifle in the time frame shown in the Zapruder film.
It’s possible that the motorcade’s movement relative to his position is what made Oswald hesitate to fire as the vehicles approached. Or maybe he already had the boxes stacked to sight down Elm St.
“I don’t know.... the Zapruder film seems to prove that there was more than one shooter.”
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Agreed.
I’m no expert on ballistics but I’ve experienced firsthand the laws of God’s physics for 50 years.
It is VERY hard to believe that Kennedy was shot ONLY from above and behind after viewing the Zapruder film.
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