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How Does Palin Overcome These Issues To Win Presidency?
Vanity ^ | 11/24/2010 | Patrick1

Posted on 11/23/2010 10:14:59 PM PST by Patrick1

Sarah Palin seems to be the favorite of the majority of Free Republic members. I still have not made up my mind about her. But if she is the consevative movement's choice to take on the disaster of Obama who has gone from The Messiah to the Mess then there are things that she will need to overcome to get 50% plus one of the American people's vote in 2012. I've listed the ones I hope her supporters can address here because failure to take these issues on will result in certain defeat.

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To: Patrick1
8) Her remark about the Alaskan wilderness.....I'd rather be here than stuck in some stuffy old political office.
301 posted on 11/24/2010 8:35:28 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Windflier

Well time is running out. China and Russia stopped using the dollar for international trade. When the dollars stops being the goreserve currency - a lot of drooling idiots who watch the endless propaganda on TV will be living in Venezuela/Zimbabwe.


302 posted on 11/24/2010 8:36:32 AM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: wtc911

And her victory is measured by the extent to which she is now able to stand up for liberty, against the forces of tyranny.

Yes, Palin won.

And her critics have never been able to describe a single presidential duty that she couldn’t handle.


303 posted on 11/24/2010 8:40:22 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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I’m a big fan of Sarah Palin. And for a year, between August of 08 till sometime this spring, I was looking forward to her running for President of the United States and winning. I’m not one these people against her, in fact I really like her, but at times I am on the fence about her presidential run since this past spring. Depends on how I feel on a certain day.

I’m on the fence about how she would be treated by the press and by the people who dislike her. Could she withstand the viciousness and counter attack it effectively?

While she has done a lot to prove how valuable she is to the conservative movement, she has been marginalized by, for a lack of a better word, idiots who made her the face of the republican party, tea party and conservative movement from both the left and the right. People ranging from Barbara Bush, Nicole Wallace and Karl Rove to all sorts of people on the left have attacked her daily.

She has withstood all sorts of attacks and kept on firing back. She is a tough woman. But, have the attacks marginalized her enough to where the idiots come out in force to vote against her on both the left and the right? Has their view of her been so distorted that she is made out to be a hick and unintelligent and thus an effect like what happened against Sharron Angle occurs in the most liberal cities and states?

Has the left sharpened its attacks against her enough to bring out the kooks to vote? Will there be fraud again? Would it be better to hit them with another candidate who they weren’t prepared for like Jim DeMint or Paul Ryan?

Can she counter all misconceptions about her and polish herself up to face strong, tough debate questions? Will she have to answer about McCain and Fiorina and quitting as governor? The Rinos will dig deep to find things to attack with as much as the left. So would she get the same treatment as Christine O’Donnell by the Rinos?

What if other conservatives get into the primaries like Michele Bachmann ot John Thune. Could she defend herself and her record? Will Lisa Murkowski work to undermine her run? What if others endorse Romney?

If it is down to Romney and Palin, It would become the Rinos vs. Conservatives and be a bloody one. Is she prepared to take on the rinos who will try to split the republican vote?

These are the questions. And some days I really think she can win it all and some days I don’t know if she can win the primary.

It has got to be a Conservative who beats Obama. Not a just anyone Rino. Must work to stopping that from happening. We must bring out the base much better in 2012 and unite behind one candidate. We split the vote and we are toast.


304 posted on 11/24/2010 8:42:47 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: wtc911

What do you think about her record as governor of Alaska? What were the policy’s she enacted that you liked and disliked?


305 posted on 11/24/2010 9:11:30 AM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer
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To: gardencatz

Cindie, that wasn’t my list. Those were my short rebuttals that you confirmed.


306 posted on 11/24/2010 9:13:29 AM PST by jessduntno (TSA: "Because screwing you with your pants ON just wasn't enough.")
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To: jessduntno

Yeah I know...sorry. Didn’t realize it until I reread it later on. Thought I hit reply to the right person. Oh well.

Cindie


307 posted on 11/24/2010 9:17:44 AM PST by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: upsdriver
The problem with directing people to her book is that the overwhelming majority of people who are either ambivalent or opposed to her aren't going to do that. Generally, I only read current politicians' political books/memoirs if I already like that individual, and I suspect I'm not alone in that.
308 posted on 11/24/2010 9:21:16 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer
You're the guy who posts the long list of her accomplishments as governor and then ignores posts that point out the blatant inaccuracies in the list.
309 posted on 11/24/2010 9:29:29 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: reasonisfaith
And her critics have never been able to describe a single presidential duty that she couldn’t handle.

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Nonsense, I just gave you a long list that doesn't even cover it.

If you are so certain that she can handle all those issues then tell us why you think so. Be specific and point to actual facts of her life up to this point. You won't because you can't, because she is not qualified.

310 posted on 11/24/2010 9:32:48 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Caipirabob
They became such a constant distraction that she felt she couldn't both answer the legal complaints and fulfill her role as governor. Having performed better inside of 2 years than most governors could over a lifetime, she stepped down. Her approval rating at the time, with full public knowledge of the ethics complaints filed against here, was 90%

That is simply flat-out false, made even worse by being underlined, bolded, and in an outrageously large font. The article linked in your own post that provided the 90% rating was dated July 7, 2007. That's only a few months after she took office, and more than two years before she resigned. By the time she resigned, her approval rating was in the mid-50's.

http://alaskapride.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-hays-poll-shows-governor-sarah.html

Regardless of how good a candidate she is, it doesn't behoove anyone to misrepresent the facts.

311 posted on 11/24/2010 9:33:39 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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I’d like to add that I would support Sarah Palin as the Nominee in 2012 if she wins. And that she might be the best one left in the primary if all none of the people I like run. Also I do not place any credence in MSM or the left. But I just have some questions about her electability. The good thing is that she could beat Obama easily because by then he will be even worse off than now in popularity. But that doesn’t mean the rino won’t try to help him.


312 posted on 11/24/2010 9:42:33 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla
It has got to be a Conservative who beats Obama. Not a just anyone Rino. Must work to stopping that from happening. We must bring out the base much better in 2012 and unite behind one candidate. We split the vote and we are toast.

Good points. I'm not a Palin fan, but I like RINOs even less. What really worries me is that Palin will get her 40% or so core in the primaries, crowding out any conservative opponents, and whomever is to her left with the most money/staying power, whether its Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, Gingrich, or whomever, will end up as the nominee of a bitterly divided party that can't win. Nor do I think Palin is going to be able to overcome enough of her negatives with independents to win the general election in 2012. That scenario scares the hell out of me.

I keep hoping that someone to the right of the Romney/Huckabee crowd will emerge. I like Mike Pence and Mitch Daniels, for example, but I don't know if they will run (in the case of Daniels) or if their organizations will be enough to let them last beyond the initial winnowing down of candidates. Maybe Jeb?

313 posted on 11/24/2010 9:46:42 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: wtc911

The record is accurate with government links to prove it legit. What are the inaccuracies of her record?


314 posted on 11/24/2010 9:47:47 AM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer
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To: gardencatz

Glad I got to see it. Nice job.


315 posted on 11/24/2010 9:50:34 AM PST by jessduntno (TSA: "Because screwing you with your pants ON just wasn't enough.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; Patrick1
The problem with directing people to her book is that the overwhelming majority of people who are either ambivalent or opposed to her aren't going to do that.

I agree. However, Patrick1 expressed an interest in being educated. If he was serious, reading the book would be on his list of things to do. My thoughts are he really wasn't interested in being convinced and only wanted to argue against Palin. If someone wants to discuss the subject with an open mind, I am more than willing to help educate.

316 posted on 11/24/2010 10:21:20 AM PST by upsdriver
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To: papertyger
You indicated your disingenuousness with these four words: "...for no good reason."

Short of overwhelming scandal, criminal activity, or genuine health reasons (you or immediate family), there IS NO GOOD REASON for quitting an office you convinced a majority of the citizens of your state to elect you to -- quitting, in this case, 18 months before the end of her only term. She cited ethics complaints filed against her as the reason.

Ethics complaints? Like that hasn't become routine in American politics. So what was she running from? Was she guilty of ethics violations? Or did she have too thin a political skin to fight the charges? Why did she let those bringing the charges run her out of Dodge? Why leave it all just hanging there as ripe fruit for a future political campaign (if such there will ever be)?

These are legitimate questions that will be raised if she runs for president, and she'll need to answer with more than glib one-liners and whining about those dastardly opponents.

Running for president is a whole 'nother ball game from running for any other office in our nation, including vice president.

The premise of the original poster's questions concerned what might trip Palin up. This area of inquiry is one strong possibility. If her supporters can't even handle it in a web forum, and react by attacking the messenger instead of addressing the core issue, what's going to happen in the white-hot time of a presidential campaign?

317 posted on 11/24/2010 10:30:45 AM PST by Wolfstar
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To: November 2010
The Obama campaign was playing patty-cake? Palin is completely vetted.

Remember this:

George W. Bush was the son of a two-term vice president and one-term president. GWB ran for congress (only race he ever lost), and ran for governor twice. You likely would have thought he was completely vetted by the time he ran for president. But what happened only days before election day 2000? News was suddenly leaked by Gore campaign operatives of a decades-old DUI on GWB's record. GWB had never disclosed the DUI before in public.

So don't kid yourself that Palin has been completely vetted. Running for governor and vice president are not in the same league as running for president, as Tom Eagleton, Gary Hart, and numerous others could tell you.

318 posted on 11/24/2010 10:39:21 AM PST by Wolfstar
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To: upsdriver
Fair enough. I'd support Palin as the nominee in the general election, but personally am not a huge fan and don't think she's electable. And I'll admit, at this point, that my opinion is pretty fixed.

But it's not guys like me who are the problem, because as I said, I'd support her strongly in the general election.

319 posted on 11/24/2010 10:41:45 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Wolfstar

I respectfully disagree. The Obama campaign was scared of Palin from the gitgo, and she boosted McCain over Obama in the polls until the market crashed. The Obama campaign and the MSM were on her with everything they had, before and after the election. I don’t think any modern politician has had the scouring that the media and campaign operatives gave Palin. Reporters living next to her is one example. Frivilous lawsuits after the campaign was over is another.


320 posted on 11/24/2010 10:46:46 AM PST by November 2010
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