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Should We Split CA into Two States? (Vanity)
10/27/2010 | Myself

Posted on 10/27/2010 11:49:18 AM PDT by RockinRight

CA is a basketcase. Full of liberals and freaks. Or is it? If you take out the strip from LA to San Francisco, it's a state as conservative as Arizona. As I posted in another thread, CA is in danger of default, esp. if Gov. Moonbeam is elected next week.

I propose splitting CA into 2 new states, as I show below. Note I use red for Communist West California, and blue for Free East California.


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West California gets LA, San Francisco, and Silicon Valley...and most of the population, but also most of the liberals.

East California gets Sacramento, the Inland Empire, Orange County (moving leftward but still not insanely so), San Diego, Fresno, and Bakersfield, as well as much of the agriculture. East Cali also gets some beachfront via San Diego and Orange Counties. It has a somewhat smaller population, but a GOP-leaning, relatively conservative state that would be likely be similar to Arizona in overall politics, while the West Californians can continute to fester in their Communist utopia as they see fit. Since Mexico is actually bordered by the more Arizona-like East California, it's stricter illegal immigration enforcement would likely help BOTH states, as they have to cross E. Cali. to get to West Cali.

What do those of you IN Cali think? I don't live there, but it's an idea that has been discussed before, but not in an East/West split - most proposals split North/South.

1 posted on 10/27/2010 11:49:28 AM PDT by RockinRight
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I have a better idea. Keep East California and give the rest back to Mexico.


2 posted on 10/27/2010 11:52:44 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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“Should We Split CA into Two States? (Vanity)”

And Washington. King County becomes it’s own state, the rest of the state retains the name.


3 posted on 10/27/2010 11:52:46 AM PDT by Grunthor (Tax cuts for the poor! If the poor can keep more money they may start hiring again!)
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To: RockinRight

CA could do like Maine and Nebraska and split their electoral votes. Not sure if that would make things better or worse.


4 posted on 10/27/2010 11:53:12 AM PDT by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: RockinRight

Add everywhere in Nevada except Clark County and you got a deal.


5 posted on 10/27/2010 11:53:35 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: RockinRight

West Cali’s capital could be maybe San Jose, or possibly Santa Barbara.

East California gets Sacramento, so could use it as it’s capital, or, it could choose a more central location for it’s capital, possibly Bakersfield.


6 posted on 10/27/2010 11:53:46 AM PDT by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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Once the split occurs “East California” should blow up the aqueducts taking water to SF and LA Basin, hee hee.


7 posted on 10/27/2010 11:54:42 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: RockinRight

“Should We Split CA into Two States?”

Just wait a bit...

The BIG ONE may do it for you!

:-)


8 posted on 10/27/2010 11:54:42 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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We’ve been talking about e/w split in WA for decades. It’ll never happen.


9 posted on 10/27/2010 11:55:08 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Grunthor
And Washington. King County becomes it’s own state, the rest of the state retains the name.

Can we throw Chicago out of Illinois while we are at it. Heck can we throw Chicago into low Earth orbit.
10 posted on 10/27/2010 11:56:47 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: RockinRight
Sorta, there really are three CAs. There is the coastal CA, northern CA and southern CA. Take your map and divide going east about the center of your red zone. Silicon Valley is kinda strange, that's the brain trust, most of these people live conservative lives plus creating jobs and making money but don't get involved in politics.
11 posted on 10/27/2010 11:57:02 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism is enforced revelation)
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Might work if ya dredge the river and make Stockton a deep port, and take over Crescent City for free California.

Then build a big wall and sell Marxifornia water and power, plus deporting illegals to Marxifornia.

What a hippie doper paradise Mfornia would be.

12 posted on 10/27/2010 11:57:49 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Once the split occurs “East California” should blow up the aqueducts taking water to SF and LA Basin, hee hee

You don't blow them up. You just inflate the price per gallon of water. Then you can keep your taxes low and attract back some of the business that has fled the state over the last two decades.
13 posted on 10/27/2010 11:59:11 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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I would love it.

We are too big to be one state.

Split it up.


14 posted on 10/27/2010 12:00:02 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: smokingfrog
CA could do like Maine and Nebraska and split their electoral votes. Not sure if that would make things better or worse.

In the case of CA, it'd be far better. We're not going to get the full 55 of their EVs.

15 posted on 10/27/2010 12:02:04 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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Adding Del Norte County and Crescent City to the “good” Cali wouldn’t be a big deal, it’s contiguous.


16 posted on 10/27/2010 12:02:29 PM PDT by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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This has been a topic as far back as Ican remember, and I’m over 50.

One proposal split it into north and south, with the north being called the State of Jefferson (google it, it’s interesting.)

A later proposal was for thirds... north, central, south. Something about LA stealing all of the water from the central California farmers.


17 posted on 10/27/2010 12:03:01 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (When life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.)
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Adding Del Norte County and Crescent City to the “good” Cali wouldn’t be a big deal, it’s contiguous.

Good idea. Many of my ancestors are buried in Del Norte, I'd hate to see it go over to the "other" California.

18 posted on 10/27/2010 12:05:04 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (When life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.)
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I can’t see how your idea would make things better, ‘cause you are leaving all the ports, and all the existing money infrastructure in the hands of the Commies.

The worst thing for California over the past decade has been the lack of quality of the leadership, and at this time no matter the party we are again lacking quality in leadership, and the potential leadership. There’s NOBODY worth a crap running for office here again IMO.

Should that day come when we have somebody worthy of voting for that actually wants to take on the established Leftist machine, and blow its wheels off, then I can see enthusiastic supporters out there campaigning like “H” to renew this State.

Until we get rid of the reruns, the third string, there isn’t going to much change here in California.


19 posted on 10/27/2010 12:05:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Navy Patriot

As I have it now, West CA would get Redwood National Forest, but East CA would get Sequoia National Park. East CA would also have the San Joaquin Valley.


20 posted on 10/27/2010 12:05:51 PM PDT by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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