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Asthma injection for children too expensive for NHS: NICE (UK)
Telegraph ^ | 10/27/2010 | Rebecca Smith

Posted on 10/27/2010 8:29:09 AM PDT by erikm88

Children with severe asthma should not be given a new injection that can cut the number of severe attacks they suffer, because it is too expensive, the NHS drugs rationing body has said.

The drug called omalizumab, marketed as Xolair, is given as a monthly injection by a doctor and has been shown to reduce the number of times a child has a severe attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: asthma; healthcare; nhs; obamacare; socializedmedicine; uk; xolair
So.. here's my question... if the NHS: NICE is rationing this drug... can someone in the UK pay out of pocket for it, if they can afford it?
1 posted on 10/27/2010 8:29:13 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: erikm88

Does this blow their mantra “help the children”?


2 posted on 10/27/2010 8:31:54 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: erikm88
The guidance applies to children under the age of 12 but older people are allowed to receive Xolair under other Nice guidance.

Nice will now re-examine the guidance for people over the age of 12 because it was acknowledged that it is best to have uniform guidelines.

Socialism means equality of misery.

3 posted on 10/27/2010 8:34:11 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: erikm88

We have friends in the UK, and they are able to afford private care sometimes. They are able to get drugs from the internet, and they often opt to go that way, because what is prescribed to them, they don’t like or they dont’ feel safe with (imagine that, taking drugs from India or China instead of your own country).

They use a private doctor when they can, but it costs an arm and a leg to go see him, and its cash only, but they feel its worth it, because he speaks English. The first doctor their family was assigned, spoke almost no English, he was what they call asian, which to us is Muslim, I think.

They will tell you, that what used to be a moderate visit to a good doctor, is now x10 the price for a good doctor, under the table, and its hard to get an appointment with them because of overbooking.

They will also tell you that healthcare there really is 2 classes now. Those who are financially stable and well to do, go to their own doctors with cash, and the rest get muzzie doctors and bureaucrat doctors, unless you are lucky (which I guess some people are they say).

Oh, and bribes. If you can’t afford a private doctor, they recommend bringing a few extra bucks with you to slip under the table. It helps grease things along, but not always.

My wife is Hungarian, and she commented that this is what it was like in Hungary before she came here to the US.


4 posted on 10/27/2010 8:43:38 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: erikm88

I thought only America gouged consumers on drug prices...


5 posted on 10/27/2010 8:45:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: esoxmagnum
They will also tell you that healthcare there really is 2 classes now. Those who are financially stable and well to do, go to their own doctors with cash, and the rest get muzzie doctors and bureaucrat doctors, unless you are lucky (which I guess some people are they say).

My SIL is in Germany, and said something similar the other day. They have private insurance from the states and have no problem seeing good doctors and getting prompt treatment. However, her German friends (unless they are very rich) get the socialized medicine. They have to take the whole day off to see the doctor, sit in the waiting room, hope they get called in that day, and then hope they don't have to wait forever for tests, xrays, etc.

6 posted on 10/27/2010 8:51:07 AM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - Herman Cain)
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To: erikm88

Ok, somebody in GB needs to go back to journalism school.

>Although there are over one million children in Britain with asthma, only around 300 of those would qualify for the treatment because of the severity of their condition and that it cannot be controlled with other medications.
The guidance applies to children under the age of 12 but older people are allowed to receive Xolair under other Nice guidance.<

From the Xolair site:

WHO is XOLAIR for?
XOLAIR® (omalizumab) for subcutaneous use is an injectable, prescription medicine for patients ages 12 and older. It is for patients with moderate to severe persistent allergic asthma caused by year-round allergens in the air. A skin or blood test is done to see if you have allergic asthma. XOLAIR is for patients who are not controlled by asthma medicines called inhaled steroids.
XOLAIR helps reduce the number of asthma attacks in people with allergic asthma who still have asthma symptoms even though they are taking inhaled steroids.
Important Limitations of Use
XOLAIR has not been proven to work in other allergic conditions.
XOLAIR is not a rescue medicine and should not be used to treat sudden asthma attacks.

XOLAIR should not be used in children under 12 years of age.


7 posted on 10/27/2010 8:55:14 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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I think that the biggest problem is the immigration issue, where there are floods of people coming from cultures that don’t even really take care of their bodies and they don’t have the ability or drive to learn something. They don’t have the cultural impetus to not mooch. Basically they don’t understand the concept of ‘process.’


8 posted on 10/27/2010 9:10:17 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: esoxmagnum
imagine that, taking drugs from India or China instead of your own country).

Yeah, I can imagine it; I order from India all the time. Yes, Ranbaxy had a quality issue a couple years ago, but it is not as though the US pharmaceutical industry has never had a scandal or a drug pulled LOL!

9 posted on 10/27/2010 9:17:37 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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I guess that’s true, maybe its a false sense of security, but we get our drugs at Osco or Walgreens, and for some reason feel safe, thinking they are not counterfeit. That is probably a false assumption, I dunno. But I would have trouble ordering mail order drugs from china or india myself, but that’s just me.


10 posted on 10/27/2010 10:21:58 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: esoxmagnum

Many high tech and medical-support firms in India are more modern than what is typically found in the United States. The particular international pharmacy I order from in one of Sunpharma’s largest customers. They purchase generics straight from the factory. I understand your trepidation not being familiar with the situation, but this company would have little motivation to purchase counterfeit drugs. As a side note, Walgreens has been involved in at least one spat with my state Health Commission. American chains may not be as pure as you think. I would avoid Chinese pharmaceuticals, but American drugs are often made from Chinese ingredients!


11 posted on 10/27/2010 10:58:17 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

“American drugs are often made from Chinese ingredients!”

I did not know that. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Now, I’m not sure I really want to know.


12 posted on 10/27/2010 11:31:56 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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