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Microsoft vs. Apple: Who's winning? The numbers don't lie
ZDNet ^ | October 24, 2010 | Ed Bott

Posted on 10/25/2010 6:29:11 PM PDT by Wooly

Microsoft has been at the top of the heap for almost as long as people have used PCs. They’ve managed to sustain an overwhelming competitive advantage, even after a decade’s worth of antitrust action and the astonishing transformation of Apple into a profit-making machine that has built one billion-dollar business after another while the entire rest of the tech industry is stuck in neutral. Indeed, the presence of Apple and Google as direct competitors suggests that maybe Microsoft is overdue to take a tumble.

There is never a shortage of Apple-versus-Microsoft yammering in the blogosphere, but I haven’t seen much in the way of actual data. Is Apple really making a dent in Microsoft’s long-standing Windows monopoly? Are mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad taking over tasks that used to be done by PCs? Sales figures tell part of the story, but in my opinion the best data comes from analyzing how devices are being used in the real world. I went off in search of hard numbers, and I found them at the same source I used earlier this year to measure Windows 7 adoption rates (see When will XP finally fade away?).

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To: antidemoncrat
Fanatic Windows users are like hard core Democrats.

That's pretty funny...

Obama to visit Steve Jobs.

"Obama is known to use Apple products in the White House, and Jobs is a long-time supporter of Democratic causes and candidates."

21 posted on 10/25/2010 7:22:43 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Wooly

Microsoft is it’s own worst enemy. Apple, et al, just add a dash of overt humiliation.


22 posted on 10/25/2010 7:25:09 PM PDT by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install Lee Atwater)
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To: biff

... but what about Steve Ballmer and the repeated, embarassing flops during his tenure at Microsoft? He’s the evil twin doppelganger of John Sculley, as far as I can tell.

Care to speculate?


23 posted on 10/25/2010 7:27:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: antidemoncrat

No, they generally cost about 4 times as much.

The mac folks are like democrats. They’ll willingly pay top dollar for smug.


24 posted on 10/25/2010 7:28:48 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Ramius

Wow. VPN? VPN is independent of OS, though.


25 posted on 10/25/2010 7:41:02 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Wooly

Any company that has as their policy, no advertising on Fox news, will ever get support from me. I don’t care if the Apple is the most astonishing computer on the planet. Which it isn’t. Not to mention that all of their products are way over priced. No Apples, other than the edible sort, see the light of day in this house.


26 posted on 10/25/2010 7:42:59 PM PDT by Graneros
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To: Wooly

Microsoft has never been an innovative company. They have always stolen ideas from smarter companies then crush them with their market monopoly.

This isn’t going to work with Google and Apple. Both companies are way to smart and too large themselves for this strategy to work. Open source also grows stronger every day.

Inertia will carry them for another 10 years or so. But if they can’t change the company culture then they will be a diminishing force.


27 posted on 10/25/2010 7:50:30 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Ramius
OK... honest answer here: Since I am not an IT puke -- and hold most enterprise IT folks I've dealt with in very low esteem -- II don't know.

OTOH, I would bet some UNIX (Core OS X) geek could blow your question right out of the water you are trying to muddy...

28 posted on 10/25/2010 8:03:24 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!)
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To: Wooly
Microsoft v. Apple — PING!

Please!
No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!

Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
 PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

 


Apple v. Microsoft Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

29 posted on 10/25/2010 8:22:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Wooly; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Microsoft v. Apple — PING!

Please!
No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!

Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
 PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

 


Apple v. Microsoft Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

30 posted on 10/25/2010 8:22:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Wooly

I think any company that runs on cults of personality are eventually going to wind down. Neither Gates/Ballmer or Jobs is perfect, they all have made great decisions and made some really terrible decisions, pride gets in the way of better solutions, personalities clash, etc.

The two companies appeal to people for different reasons. But in many ways both have tried to clamp down on stuff that would ultimately help them more than hurt them, in the long run. Visionaries aren’t usually visionary forever.


31 posted on 10/25/2010 8:27:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

32 posted on 10/25/2010 8:29:32 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Wooly

Bring back DOS!


33 posted on 10/25/2010 8:42:27 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TomServo
"Obama is known to use Apple products in the White House, and Jobs is a long-time supporter of Democratic causes and candidates."

And while governement contracts for PC based systems are down, Apple's sales to the government are up approximately 100% under this administration.

34 posted on 10/25/2010 8:50:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Ramius
OK... honest question here: for an enterprise Mac environment how do you enforce whole-disk encrption of client machines and centrally manage encryption keys?

I'm still waiting to see the mythical open source Exchange killer.

35 posted on 10/25/2010 8:52:16 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: dhs12345
How do app costs compare?

If I remember correctly, apps were more expensive for the Mac, too.

Not so. Prices of applications are competitive or less.

Also, the PC is an open system. So, there is competition. Competition means cheaper hardware and software. Apple is not.

Hardware competition has resulted in a race to the commodity bargain basement. . . and no profit margins. As to open system, the Mac is UNIX... you can't get more open than that. In addition, the Mac can run all versions Windows software as well as all Mac software, all UNIX software, and all Linux software as well as several other OS's software in windows under OSX.

36 posted on 10/25/2010 9:00:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: tacticalogic

I expect that....lower forms of life using a lower, less productive, form of technology.


37 posted on 10/25/2010 9:00:54 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo
I expect that....lower forms of life using a lower, less productive, form of technology.

"Productivity" is probably relative, depending on what you're producing. I have noticed that the social-networked twentysomethings that seem to make up the rank and file obamabots like their iThings, and they're writing the contract specs now.

38 posted on 10/25/2010 9:08:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Ramius
OK... honest question here: for an enterprise Mac environment how do you enforce whole-disk encrption of client machines and centrally manage encryption keys?

That's not really an issue, Ramius. Encrypting the whole disk is not necessary. Why encrypt the UNIX OS and the apps? All that is necessary is to encrypt the user partitions under UNIX, something that has been done in the enterprise far longer than Windows security has been around. OSX is certified UNIX... with industrial strength permissions, accesses, encryptions and management from UNIX.

39 posted on 10/25/2010 9:15:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: edcoil

True, but worth every penny.....HP and Microsoft has to be the worst computer ever and that is talking from experience. The Apple is less frustrating and never has issues.


40 posted on 10/25/2010 9:20:10 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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