Posted on 10/14/2010 2:50:57 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
Historians are notorious for savaging historical fiction. We're quick to complain that writers project modern values onto their characters, get the surroundings wrong, cover up the seamy side of an era or exaggerate its evils -- and usually, we're right.
But AMC's hit show "Mad Men," which ends its fourth season next Sunday, is a stunning exception. Every historian I know loves the show; it is, quite simply, one of the most historically accurate television series ever produced. And despite the rampant chauvinism of virtually all its male characters (and some of its female ones), it is also one of the most sympathetic to women.
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The joy of the show is in these guys behaving in a way that is not acceptable now,
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I’m kicking the L out of myself because I can’t recall the articles name...it was on Fox opinion down at the bottom—I think this past Monday or Tuesday.
It was fantastic, it pretty much decried what liberalism has done to manhood.
I agree.
I was raised by a VERY strong divorced mother, she never let us girls ever expect less of ourselves when it came to repairs and such.
Before she would take me or sis down to get our license—she put the car on jacks, took the wheels off and made my sister and I do brakes and replace the wheels/tires.
She said she never wanted us broke down and incapable of taking care of ourselves because it would just make us victim.
She made us learn to be a man just as much as be woman—but she NEVER took away from a man to give us that gift. NEVER!
We were to be independent, but she never gave that to us by taking away the beauty of a man. (real men)
One can be feminist w/o being anti-male.
Bachmann, Palin prove this everyday.
My favorite was the mom with the cigarette hanging out of her mouth shooting a gun off the back porch. I can’t remember if it was a bb gun or what, but it was great.
The big screw up of feminism was that while supposedly trying to make women stronger they wound up making men weaker. While the goal should have been what your mom pushed (women capable of handling themselves in a crisis, like changing a flat), we now have a world where most people can’t change a tire even if you point them to the page in their car manual that says how. There were certainly things wrong in the 60s, and some of those wrong things were in how women were treated, but we threw the baby out with the bath water, instead of treating women like people nobody gets to be people. We all have to make sure nothing we say is offensive, work can’t be complicit in any “risky” behavior, and the grief counseling courses have to be offered after every round of layoffs.
Like cigarettes being a part of life. But, everything changed when Kennedy was killed.
If you watch Perry Mason, you can see a lot of the same attitudes as there are in Mad Men.
This is the biggest misconception about the pre-feminist era. I think women had it much better then than they do now. Men now expect women to help support them, and that they will put their children in day care to do it. Unmarried women were not expected to put out, (but there were always the Joanies) and they were shown much more respect. Yes, yes, yes...women have come such a long way - they now get to work as hard on the job as men and then come home and do the housework and child care, too.
I don’t know, there’s something in the Hollywood mindset that thinks men have no honor and are only kept in check by strong women or legal action; never by other, better men or their own morality.
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Well put. I watch almost no TV other than cable news, history, and some Discovery programs, but I watched a little of one episode of this stupd show when everyone was going on about it. About 10 minutes was all I could take.
Women in the 60’s lied about men to get laws passed. Now we believe the lies are real history. Too sad.
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Good point. I was a very attractive young woman in the 1960s and I can only remember one instance of having a boss get out of line.
Roger that. Christina makes me all wobbly inside. :-))
I agree and it makes me enraged at what things have become.
There is a need for women to be independent and self sufficient... but there is no need for men to lose anything in this climb.
It defeats reason and reality.
I think every father and mother owes this independence/knowledge to their kids.
Teach...always teach.
And I know someone today who has a wife and 3 daughters (and a son) who go to his business location (he owns it) on a regular basis and he has Ti%%y calendar pictures and posters on the walls. Just think of what this is teaching his son and his daughters!
tried to watch it based on FR commentary and Rush.
I could not get into it. It was pathetic charactures and you end up disliking everyone. And this was only after ten minutes.
click.
It is just another left coast show.
she’s a red head ?
I agree. Men were polite and respectful
where are the hats?
there were all sorts of etiquet rules about hates.
Out west, that was a cowboy hat and a ma’am.
I loved Remember WENN!
In her nightgown, no less
I agree. Men were polite and respectful
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And women dressed and acted like ladies. It was a minority of women who indulged in premarital sex. Cohabitation was almost unheard of, and an unmarried woman guarded her reputation fiercely through the way she conducted herself, the way she dressed, and the language she used. I remain astounded to this day at the rapidity with which that paradigm shift occurred.
Me, too. Young people no longer believe or even know that people can control themselves enough to live a life of traditional values. Very sad.
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