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Did Americans in 1776 have British accents? (Suprising answer)
Nick Patrick blog via Fark.com ^ | 10/09/2010 | Nick Patrick

Posted on 10/09/2010 8:08:47 AM PDT by prisoner6

The typical English accent didn't develop until after the Revolutionary War, so Americans actually speak proper English. Here comes the science.

Did Americans in 1776 have British accents?

Reading David McCullough’s 1776, I found myself wondering: Did Americans in 1776 have British accents? If so, when did American accents diverge from British accents?

The answer surprised me.

I’d always assumed that Americans used to have British accents, and that American accents diverged after the Revolutionary War, while British accents remained more or less the same.

Americans in 1776 did have British accents in that American accents and British accents hadn’t yet diverged. That’s not too surprising.

What’s surprising, though, is that those accents were much closer to today’s American accents than to today’s British accents. While both have changed over time, it’s actually British accents that have changed much more drastically since then.

First, let’s be clear: the terms “British accent” and “American accent” are oversimplifications; there were, and still are, many constantly-evolving regional British and American accents. What many Americans think of as “the British accent” is the standardized Received Pronunciation, also known as “BBC English.”

The biggest difference between most American and most British accents is rhotacism. While most American accents are rhotic, the standard British accent is non-rhotic. (Rhotic speakers pronounce the ‘R’ sound in the word “hard.” Non-rhotic speakers do not.)

So, what happened?

In 1776, both American accents and British accents were largely rhotic. It was around this time that non-rhotic speech took off in southern England, especially among the upper class. This “prestige” non-rhotic speech was standardized, and has been spreading in Britain ever since.

Most American accents, however, remained rhotic.

There are a few fascinating exceptions: New York and Boston accents became non-rhotic, perhaps because of the region’s British connections in the post-Revolutionary War era. Irish and Scottish accents are still rhotic.

If you’d like to learn more, this passage in The Cambridge History of the English Language is a good place to start.

Sources:
■American English, Rhotic and non-rhotic accents, Received Pronunciation - Wikipedia
■The Cambridge History of the English Language - Google Books


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: dialect; english; godsgravesglyphs; language; linguistics
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To: muawiyah

Natives of the Outer Banks of North Carolina have a unique accent that sounds Elizabethan.
And they refer to us tourists as ‘off islanders’.


41 posted on 10/09/2010 8:49:18 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Darksheare

Of course not. It’s all Bush’s fault.


42 posted on 10/09/2010 8:49:35 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: glorgau

The Pirate alphabet is much simpler....mainly “eye” and “arrgh”.


43 posted on 10/09/2010 8:50:37 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: prisoner6

In 1991, while living in a Chinese City, a geologist from Edinburgh, Scotland visited our home. He had been out in the wilderness with Chinese geologists for some weeks, and was eager just to sit and drink tea with anyone who could speak English. When he heard about us, he ventured to our home.

We were just as delighted to have a visitor, and we listened to his accounts from having been in the field with Chinese scientists.

I finally had to tell him that I was amazed that his speech sounded more like a southern Virginian’s or like someone from Edenton, North Carolina, than what we expected a Scot to sound like.

He laughed and said that Englishmen used to sound like him, too, “300 years ago.”

Well, that Scot’s understanding of English accents fairly well corresponds with the information provided in this article.

It’s very interesting, and I will give this link to my son who is a linguist. We have talked about this several times.


44 posted on 10/09/2010 8:51:22 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: prisoner6

Thanks for the info. This was something I hadn’t read about, but kind of wondered about.


45 posted on 10/09/2010 8:52:25 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: cripplecreek
I once read an account from British soldiers, in this case leaving the field at Saratoga & marching past Gate's army which was lining both sides of the road, remarking how much taller the American soldiers were than they.

We ate alot better than the average lobsterback.

46 posted on 10/09/2010 8:53:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: glorgau
Pirates must be rhotic speakers.

Q. What is a pirates favorite article of speech?

A. A dangling parrrrrrrrrrticiple.

47 posted on 10/09/2010 9:01:30 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: prisoner6

Arrrrrrr!


48 posted on 10/09/2010 9:01:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 627 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: prisoner6

“New York and Boston accents became non-rhotic, perhaps because of the region’s British connections in the post-Revolutionary War era...”

But NOBODY understands what happened to New Jersey:)


49 posted on 10/09/2010 9:01:48 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Let's Roll
What kind of accent is denoted by the pronunciation:

Pock-ee-stahn

50 posted on 10/09/2010 9:01:59 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: prisoner6

One way to seek out the accents is by reading letters written by somewhat uneducated folks. They spell phonetically and sometimes you can follow the accent by reading the letters aloud. This came to me in the Confederate Museum in Richmond, VA several years ago. Soldier letters home actually spoke with southern accents. Fascinating!!


51 posted on 10/09/2010 9:02:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: cripplecreek

>> The southern accent seems to be merging with the midwestern accent in my area. <<

Sadly, the Southern Accent — or should one say, the Southern “Accents” in the plural — is/are dying. All across the Deep South, not to mention the Upper South, teenagers now ape the talk of Valley Girls and Britney Spears. In 75 years, the Southern accent will be heard only in old movies and recordings.

(This unfortunate development affects both the “drawl” variety and the “twang” variety of Southern speech, the latter being primarily from the Coastal Plain, lower Piedmont and “Delta” areas of the South, with the latter being primarily from the upper Piedmont and mountain areas.)


52 posted on 10/09/2010 9:02:29 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: JimRed

“Which one? If you put a Maine lobsterman in the same room with an Alabama sharecropper you’d have difficulty believing they are speaking the same language.”

One of my teammates was on a conference call yesterday with a lady from (it was obvious to me) Louisiana. They couldn’t understand her very well so they got me on the phone with her. Being raised down South myself I thought she had a very charming and sexy accent and had no difficulty understanding her.


53 posted on 10/09/2010 9:03:48 AM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: skeeter

I have always found it somewhat amusing that the Brits will say something like can’t with that softer a but when saying a word, though Spanish, like taco they say “tacko”.


54 posted on 10/09/2010 9:06:01 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: muawiyah
"..just listen to it when someone says “wash” (as in Warshington) or “squash” (as in Squarsh)."

OK..so explain the southern "woah-man" vs women. It gets puzzlinger and puzzlinger. I'll go get my Saturday morning cup of java and leave you to solve the worlds mysteries. Life is so easy with a Muawiyah around. :)~

55 posted on 10/09/2010 9:06:35 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: muawiyah
Or Orl, as in Orl Well!

George Orl Well?

56 posted on 10/09/2010 9:08:17 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 627 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Hawthorn

Back in the 80s I spent some time in Texas and noticed almost immediately that the local newsroom crew didn’t have the standard Texas accent that I heard in the stores and resturant.

On my way to Texas I stopped in Little Rock for the night and asked a gas station attendant if there were any decent cheap motels in the area. He said, “Taint none that’s fittin”. LOL


57 posted on 10/09/2010 9:09:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FrankR
These same people would probably never be so rude as to correct one's grammer or pronunciation if they were in an actual, live, conversation with another person or persons.

Clearly, you have never met my ex.

58 posted on 10/09/2010 9:10:40 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 627 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Vinnie

Our ex son in law is originally from Wanhcese, NC and we could never understand him.


59 posted on 10/09/2010 9:11:09 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: prisoner6

bump


60 posted on 10/09/2010 9:13:18 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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