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To: BroJoeK

“Lincoln appointed no “Czars,” and with the South gone, the Republican controlled Congress went along with everything he did.”

Exactly my point. When you decide to make shit up, you can make up whatever you want. Instead of trusting the people to do the right thing in their own time, stick it up their rear ends and tell them it’s for their own good.

“They never would have done it.”

Sounds like Zero ... we need to do it now!

Until someone stops you or is so outraged they will die trying. That is what makes the struggle noble.

And why the decidedly one-sided presentation of history here is so amusing.

PC standards of the day excuse Lincoln and the slave holder Grant, but do not excuse the South.

Robert Byrd was a Klansman but became a Black loving Democrat. Byrd was a bastard, Grant was a Saint. (I can hear it now...”but Grant only owned just ONE slave”).

Go figure. Grant was a bastard, but he was OUR bastard, that is what it sounds like. Abe was a black hating deportationist bastard, but he was OUR bastard, because the Yankees were getting KIA about 3 or 4 to one in the beginning of the war and Abe miraculously saw the light and changed his big old heart after a couple of years. He is excused.

The South wasn’t there to fight back legally, so the North just did what they wanted, is what you are saying. All legal like. Cripes. No one wants to call a spade a hoe.

In the process, the Grand Old Potty morphed into this monster that we now have to paper train just to be able to stomach pulling the lever for them, Demoncrats have become Socialists and nearly brought down the Republic with the aid of a bedwetting GOP and everyone is focused on what may or may not have happened and who may or may not have been considered legally acting more than a hundred years ago.

This pathetic pandering to the new “Southern Strategy” sickens us all and should be stopped. It is divisive, stupid and more importantly a GOP invention of Mikie Steele and his merry gang of idiots.

Please ... if I was black I would stay so far away from these morons that want to trade the old liars for the new liars that I wouldn’t be in hailing distance. I thought we were supposed to be all about truth now?

This war, to quote Hedley Lamarr, was about power and a land snatch. See snatch.


27 posted on 09/22/2010 3:42:02 PM PDT by jessduntno ("If anybody believes they can increase taxes today, they're out of their mind." -- Mayor Daley)
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To: jessduntno
"PC standards of the day excuse Lincoln and the slave holder Grant, but do not excuse the South."

What kind of "excuse" are you looking for?

Lincoln and Grant lead the war to preserve the Union and free the slaves -- and most people today think that was a good thing, despite whatever other flaws Lincoln or Grant might have.

The South fought to destroy the Union and preserve slavery -- and most people today think that was a bad thing, despite whatever other virtues the Southern Cause might have.

Defenders of the Southern Cause also like to claim that Abraham Lincoln was really Barrack Hussein Obama in disguise, with his huge, bloated, all-controlling, all-consuming Federal Government choking the economic and cultural life out of America.

Well, that's just fantasy.
The post-war Federal Government of Lincoln and his Republican successors was circa 10% the size it is today.
So they are not to blame for our current plight -- Progressives and liberal Democrats are.

Among the most liberal and progressive of them all, of course, was Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who won the states of the Old Confederacy by margins of 80% and 90%.

So, yes, I blame the South as much as anyone else for the long-term march of socialism in America.

40 posted on 09/23/2010 4:40:30 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: jessduntno; Michael Zak
This pathetic pandering to the new “Southern Strategy” sickens us all and should be stopped. It is divisive, stupid and more importantly a GOP invention of Mikie Steele and his merry gang of idiots.

My thoughts exactly! This "Southern Strategy" of Steele's will blow up in his face. Many of us have had more than enough of this type of politics.

Even a simpleton knows that the South is conservative. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that being true to conservative principles will win elections down here.

IMHO these posts are the trial balloon for this strategy.

58 posted on 09/23/2010 12:10:03 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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