History Of Peru Series Part 5: The Pucllana Period

Peruvian Times ^ | Monday, September 13, 2010 | Paul Goulder

[SunkenCiv]

In this Peruvian Times tour of early Peru we are now visiting the fourth site, Pucllana or the Huaca Juliana, part of the "intermediate" Lima Culture. Please see Part 2 for map and Part 3 for aerial views and context. I hope that during the course of the next five parts of the series -- which all have to do with the same time period as Pucllana, approximately 200-800 AD -- a more intimate understanding of this remarkable era in Peru's development will emerge. It is remarkable also because of the "flowering" of two neighboring cultures: those of the Moche and the Nasca. On the map, shown left, a median date of 400 is given. Archaeologists at Pucllana told us that the earliest dating for the site is 200, about the time that Huallamarca -- see Part 4 -- is being given up for use as a cemetery. Taken together, the parallel growth of the Moche, Nasca and Lima cultures bear witness to a sea-change[1] in the overall development of the coastal areas of what is now called Peru.

[SunkenCiv]

Moche, Nasca and the Lima culture (Pucllana)

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[Domangart]

Have they ever done DNA tests on the people of that area. I know they traced a Mexican village back to a specific town/area of Japan.

[bigheadfred]

Are the images below of real events, for example of actual bloodletting, prisoner-sacrifice etc, or do they portray mythical divinities performing rituals?

In interesting question. When they are sifting through the ashes in the future, what are they going to surmise from the things we left behind?

[GladesGuru]

The answer to question #$ is simple. Meso-American “Indigenous Persons” were stone age cannibal societies.

[GladesGuru]

The answer to question #4 is simple. Meso-American “Indigenous Persons” were stone age cannibal societies.

Add in a bit of European Christianity well infused with some of Islamic behaviors acquired during Spain’s 700 years of dhimmitude, and you have the brief history of the New World south of the present US border.

[Oshkalaboomboom]

bfl

[bigheadfred]

National Geographic has some stuff

Markers

Look at the genetic markers section.

[bigheadfred]

stone age cannibal societies

Oh yah. When I see those peeple holding signs saying they are the indigenous inhabitants and we stole the southwest all I really see are a bunch of ignorant imbecilic indignant half-breed ba$tard left-overs from the Spanish rape of the Americas.

[SunkenCiv]

Just be glad a lot of the digital pics won’t make it to posterity. This is the other angle:

http://www.newwest.net/images/thumbnails_feature/Brass_Bull.jpg

I can’t/won’t post some of the other views I found.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks!

[blam]

"Have they ever done DNA tests on the people of that area. I know they traced a Mexican village back to a specific town/area of Japan."

Can you provide a link to this information?

I know of no such connection.

I do know about the Zuni Enigma

[Domangart]

It was on TV. This Dr from the gov of Mexico and a Dr from Japan linked up. First they had some style of pottery from Mexico that they were able to like up in style and era. Then they matched up DNA to family groups over in Japan.. You may not know that there are two hot spots for VHK Syndrome in Japan and Mexico. The two DNA markers for this group of eye problems are in both populations.

[blam]

Thanks.

No, I not heard of this VHK connection. I had no success doing a search either.

If you find out any more about it. Please ping me.

[Domangart]

The only problem is I have it and I am a GGG grandson of Somerled. The clan has done a lot of DNA and there is no direct connection with myself and those two areas . I only have one marker. It shows up in a HLA panel of DT-4? 5 or 6. It's been a while. It's unlikely that you would have heard of it only 60k have uviotis and it is a subset that has Polosisi and retinitis at the same time. I responded, the man from Japan didn't. I don't expect to see much research like this pot/DNA thing unless Japan does a massive research project involving the entire population. Then someone will be able to use this on the west coast.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks blam!