Posted on 09/14/2010 8:30:14 AM PDT by Beave Meister
this is why honor is a dying virtue in modern-day society... as my husband and i raise our boys, this is the tide we swim against...
I'm pretty sure today's moral ambiguity and astronomical cash flows have not improved the quality of baseball. I, for one, yearn for those simpler times. Pete Rose can take another decade or so to think about his sins for all I care. Maybe then, he'll find a more appropriate venue to express his heartfelt contrition.
Pete should be in the HOF based on what he accomplished as a player on the field, not what he did as a manager.
“...at a casino...”
Appropriate enough. He interrupted his poker game long enough to apologize for gambling.
Pete was/is his own worst enemy. Many of us here in Cincinnati defended him based upon our belief in his statements and protestations. His time to confess was 1989. He blew it. His sincerity is forever suspect.
I teach my kids that hard work should be rewarded, apologies should be accepted, punishment should be appropriate, and mercy should be granted.
It has been quite a while since I have visited the Hall of Fame but when I did they had a display showing the top leaders in significant career statistics. Unless they have removed this display Pete Rose would of course be at the top of career hits and thus is in the Hall of Fame. Oh you want a plaque and formal induction ceremony for him too? Shoeless Joe Jackson is in line in front of him for that and still waiting.
we do that too... and then we go deeper... set our minds on things above...
The man’s been punished enough.
I say we let him play.
Ditto.
The same applies to Joe Jackson. I'm not saying Jackson was innocent but the ongoing Black Sox scandal is that the Hall of Fame has no place for Shoeless Joe on its walls but it does have a spot for Charles Comiskey, the tightwad owner who provoked his players into throwing the World Series by financially abusing them (he also helped maintain baseball's color barrier).
A lifetime ban should not extend beyond the grave. It also should not extend into a museum. Let's finally acknowledge that a player's personal morality is not and never has been a criteria for induction the Hall of Fame despite the Hall's "character clause." If character truly was a criteria, why are racists, drug abusers, adulterers, alcoholics and professed cheats in the Hall? adulterers, alcoholics and professed cheats in the Hall?
Rose became baseball's all-time hit king 25 years ago. It's time to finally allow voters to decide whether he and Jackson belong in the Hall. And if they make it, we simply list their baseball sins alongside their achievements thusly.
But you condone it by supporting this vile liar for inclusion into the BHOF.
“Get over yourself.”
Small wonder you are so popular on this topic.!
Banned for life - it's there for a reason!
Why are all of us SOOOO dumb and you are SOOOO smart?
Oh, you aren't!
No he didn't. He bet on them sometimes to win, other times he didn't bet on them at all.
Pete's a scumbag, so one can only assume he's the type who would manage differently, depending on whether or not he had money on them that night.
Doesn't matter though. Baseball's been clear about it since 1920. If you gamble on baseball, you are banished from baseball. Forever.
Crybabies included.
Despite that fact, Pete allegedly sold "the bat that broke the record" to countless suckers again and again.
You sure are taking this personally. What are you, two?
“I bet on my team every night. I didn’t bet on my team four nights a week. I was wrong,” said Rose, who accepted a lifetime ban for gambling in 1989. “I bet on my team to win every night because I love my team, I believe in my team,” he added. “I did everything in my power every night to win that game.”
Look, sir, I grew up watching Pete Rose and Johnny Bench at many a Reds’ game with my beloved dad. Those are good memories. I’d like to see my childhood baseball hero finally be forgiven for his mistake and begin to repair his life.
That doesn’t make me a liberal piece of scum. It makes me nostalgic.
Super! Enjoy your nostalgia!
Just understand this:
YOU ARE WRONG!
(PS - it's NOT a mistake to LIE FOR 20 YEARS - IT AN ‘ON PURPOSE.’)
You argue like an emotional liberal.
Wussy.
I disagree with you, so I’m a wussy liberal? You must be a birther. You’re just as hateful and unhinged as they are.
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