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Do you think there are any such things as "moderate" or "peace loving" muslims?

Posted on 09/12/2010 7:40:05 PM PDT by LouAvul

There are lots of "lukewarm" Christians. (Rev. 3:16) These are Christians who go whichever way the wind blows. They don't want to make waves.

This is a characteristic of human nature and something we all must guard against (as Christians).

But seeing as how many Christians are lukewarm (vote democrat, embrace homosexuals [viz. Episcopalians]), would it follow that there are many muslims who similarly don't uphold Islam's murderous tenets?


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To: Las Vegas Ron

Dude. You have a tin foil hat mentality that needs to get from behind a computer and join the rest of us. Seperate yourself from the macro/ZERO/ terrorist mentality for a second. While I agree we are being cultural assaulted, get grounded for a few minutes and step away from FR.
If I were an average person coming across this site, I would be shocked at the ignorance. Grow up people and quit getting drunk behind the keyboard and posting.
If we as conservatives have a chance, let’s post some intelligent shit instead of one word defaming stupidness. What? I can’t turn my back to a muslim co-worker? How crazy is that?
Freepers need to get a grip. We have built a credible alliance on this site forwhat 17 yrs? Why ass it up with ignorance and hatred?
Let’s attack the enemy as it is. We have a shitty president, a shitty Congress, and a shitty social network and entertainment buisness.
Is my co-worker going to blow up my cubicle or building? No. Let’s think outside the box and speak intelligent thought.IMHO /rant


81 posted on 09/12/2010 8:30:23 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: LouAvul

HELL NO! anyone that thinks there is such a thing is inviting their own death.


82 posted on 09/12/2010 8:30:22 PM PDT by watchdogmom
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To: PotatoHeadMick

No, what Im saying is that some have...and they made a real big splash, we’re still talking about it.


83 posted on 09/12/2010 8:31:06 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: delchiante

or just as good as dead when the real vocal Muslims get a whiff of any pro west, pro America, pro Israel..

moderates don’t build victory mosques at Islam’s perceived victory hits of Jihad


84 posted on 09/12/2010 8:31:40 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Minus_The_Bear

The Bible has some pretty nasty stuff in it too, doesn’t follow that every Christian takes every word of it seriously though does it? None of my Muslim friends regard women as “property” for the simple reason that their wives wouldn’t put up with it for a second.

I haven’t ever heard of any homosexual being killed by Muslims, maybe I missed them, funny really as several of the Muslims I know are openly gay and have so far managed to avoid being murdered by all these fire breathing jihadists that you seem to believe every Muslim is.

If you are comfortable with having a ludicrously childlike phobia of Muslims that is your business but I find it laughable.


85 posted on 09/12/2010 8:31:50 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Takes one to know one, buddy!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

86 posted on 09/12/2010 8:34:11 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: RachelFaith

Sorry to disagree, but I believe islam is one of satan’s cheap cheesy couterfiet knock-offs of Christianity. As he does with everything, he has the main concept bass-ackwards! He has poor muslims believing that they must die for their god, while in true Christianity, our God died for US.


87 posted on 09/12/2010 8:35:02 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: ClearBlueSky

You suggested that “good” Muslims should be asked to rip offensive passages from the Quran. Would you (were you a Christian or a Jew) be willing to rip pages from the Bible (I.e., ones supporting stoning, etc.)?


88 posted on 09/12/2010 8:35:46 PM PDT by TexNewMex
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To: LouAvul

There’s lots of muslims that live a secular westernized lifestyle...eat pork, drink beer, don’t pray, etc. I don’t know how hard they would resist if/when the radicals start pushing for sharia law though.


89 posted on 09/12/2010 8:35:54 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: festusbanjo
I know many normal, hardworking, taxpaying, patriotic Muslims. I also know some hypocritical, wackjob, vicious, lazy ass Christians. I'd rather associate with normal versus nutty, religion notwithstanding.

It all depends upon what you consider "normal". I know one thing: those "wackjob, vicious, lazy ass Christians" you supposedly know aren't going to behead or stone you if you "slip up" as a stupid infidel.

90 posted on 09/12/2010 8:36:16 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Tucker39
Sorry to disagree, but I believe islam is one of satan’s cheap cheesy couterfiet knock-offs of Christianity. As he does with everything, he has the main concept bass-ackwards! He has poor muslims believing that they must die for their god, while in true Christianity, our God died for US.

Then we agree. That is what a Heresy or Apostasy is. A counterfeit.

91 posted on 09/12/2010 8:37:04 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LouAvul

“moderate” or “peace loving” muslims?

Muslims who follow the Koran can not be at peace with non believers. Islam is incompatible with western values. There can be no compromise or questioning the Koran. It is the word of god and can not be questioned or altered in any way.

How can one believe in the Koran and be a practicing Muslim and live peacefully with non believers? One can not according the the word of god.


92 posted on 09/12/2010 8:37:06 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Ditter

“I don’t think Mick wants to talk to us anymore. Hey come on back Mick we no hurt you!”

And in a thread full of nonsense, the chief idiot speaks loudest.


93 posted on 09/12/2010 8:37:33 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: ClearBlueSky

There are plenty of muslims that think their holy book shouldn’t be taken literally, just as there are christians that believe the same of the bible.


94 posted on 09/12/2010 8:39:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ClearBlueSky

“Do any of your friends CONDEMN the acts of the ‘bad Muslims’? Are they vocal about wanting them destroyed because they are ‘corrupting’ a ‘good’ religion’? Any outrage there? Would they embrace a Jew, go to a Catholic wedding?”

I have already answered that question, I’ll repeat the answer;

Yes.


95 posted on 09/12/2010 8:40:47 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: LouAvul

Of course moderate muslims exist somewhere.

They carry something less than a full automatic weapon under their disguised female clothing

They avoid relations with some goats

They dont run in packs every day of the week

They limit belt bombs to less than 50 kg

Not every word in the presence of infidels is a complete lie

Hiking their rear in the air is not always instantly odorous

Stoning women is reserved only for non-goat days

Someday, although not as of yet, they may suggest that not all killing is always good, and you might see one more sunrise before the knife is thoughtfully taken quickly across your throat

This summary of a good/moderate muslime in todays world is provided as a courtesy in hopes someone might locate one.


96 posted on 09/12/2010 8:41:11 PM PDT by petertare (--.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Show me ONE mosque where the worshippers file in and sit as families; where the women are not culled out; where the men are not offered the ridiculous fantasy of all those virgins; where jihad is condemned; etc., etc.... then I will consider the notion that there are moderate Muslims. Until then, I’ll continue to see them as they are. A threat to Western society.


97 posted on 09/12/2010 8:43:02 PM PDT by SusanKatzKeating (Admit nothing; deny everything; make counteraccusations)
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To: goseminoles

I’m sorry for the language all... I hope a don’t get zapped for it. I’m just trying to bring reason back to a negotiable level. Posts of “kill them all” isn’t worthy of discussion. I wonder where people live or what there lives consist of that prompts comments like that.
We can as Freepers propose to kill all muslims and declare war but can’t explain why we are getting raped at the municipal level for property taxes or increased rate hikes on businesses for affordable interest rates on small business loans. Let’s vote solid Republicans at the local and state levels in the next two years and let out conservative leaders handle this problem. Let’s not go half cocked on a public website and look like a bunch of retarded idiots.


98 posted on 09/12/2010 8:43:13 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: LouAvul
The Islamist (political Islam, Sharia Law) Imam of Peace Rauf said (paraphrasing) "We must build the mosque at the chosen location. If we move the location it will be seen as an attack on Islam and there will be violence that endangers Americans everywhere. It is our patriotic duty to build the mosque where I said."

How many Muslims who know all the facts agree? IMO that is a critical measure.

Christian Identity and Christians v. Islamists and Islam: Wouldn't that be an apt comparison?

How many Christians would seriously say, "If we let this or that happen the Christian Identity will react violently so we must not do this or that." (Ans: less than one percent, I bet)

Christian Identity and Islamists share much. Both believe in religion over government and both have laws that supersede civil law. Both have used violence though the Islamists are light-years ahead on that count.

99 posted on 09/12/2010 8:43:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: goseminoles; Las Vegas Ron
Freepers need to get a grip. We have built a credible alliance on this site forwhat 17 yrs? Why ass it up with ignorance and hatred? Let’s attack the enemy as it is. We have a shitty president, a shitty Congress, and a shitty social network and entertainment buisness. Is my co-worker going to blow up my cubicle or building? No. Let’s think outside the box and speak intelligent thought.IMHO /rant

Freepers don't usually curse like you do, goseminoles, so it is you who needs to "get a grip, dude".

100 posted on 09/12/2010 8:44:33 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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