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Like the ’55 Chevy, the 3,000-Mile Oil Change Is Pretty Much History
Yahoo Finance ^ | September 10, 2010 | ALINA TUGEND

Posted on 09/12/2010 4:48:45 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

Is the 3,000-mile oil change outdated?
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I STILL remember learning from my father how to carefully remove a dipstick to check the oil level in our cars. It was drilled into me — along with turning off the lights when you left a room and clearing the plates off the table after dinner — that oil needs to be changed every 3,000 miles or so.

I’m not sure what I thought would happen if I didn’t, but I vaguely imagined an unlubricated engine grinding to a halt.

Childhood habits are hard to undo, and that’s often good. To this day, I hate seeing an empty room with the lights on. But sometimes, we need to throw aside our parents’ good advice. In March, for example, I wrote about how we should relearn the dishwasher and laundry soap habits we inherited from our mothers.

Add frequent oil-changing to that list.

“There was a time when the 3,000 miles was a good guideline,” said Philip Reed, senior consumer advice editor for the car site Edmunds.com. “But it’s no longer true for any car bought in the last seven or eight years.”

Oil chemistry and engine technology have improved to the point that most cars can go several thousand more miles before changing the oil, Mr. Reed said. A better average, he said, would be 7,500 between oil changes, and sometimes up to 10,000 miles or more.

The California Integrated Waste Management Board ran public service announcements for several years about “the 3,000-mile myth,” urging drivers to wait longer between oil changes. Although the information is a few years old, the board has a list of cars on its Web site and how often they need oil changes. The concern is not only the cost to

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To: Bad~Rodeo
I have a 2007 Pontiac G6, purchased new. It has an electronic oil change indicator - ends up being around 6-7K. Since purchasing I have followed these "manufacturers' guidelines" - 6-7K.

It has developed a serious ping, and the dealer did a "top engine cleaning," under warranty. Mechanic said usually a little bit of smoke comes out the exhaust during this. When they did mine, a lot of smoke came out. He suggested that I change oil every 3000 miles from now on and I do.

This cleaning did not solve the pinging, so they actually took off the valve cover and did a more in-depth service/cleaning. It helped for a few days, now the pinging is back. I'm inclined to think it's computer related.

I'm sure plenty of vehicles can get by just fine on 6-7, or even 10K intervals, but because of this experience, mine will be 3-4K from now on in any vehicle.

21 posted on 09/12/2010 5:16:50 PM PDT by floozy22 (The Left has an irrational devotion to protecting evil.)
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To: Viking2002
I try to do an oil/filter change about once a month

Holy deer droppings. What's your yearly total?

22 posted on 09/12/2010 5:18:00 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: goseminoles

Why the hell does my ‘ become a ? when I copy and paste? Arghh...


23 posted on 09/12/2010 5:18:47 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Bad~Rodeo

“That’s cheap for synthetic, what brand?”

I’ve bought Mobil 1 there for $21, $22, and $26 for 5 quarts. Recently, it’s always been $21 or $22. I always check the quantity because the price is so low - heck it’s even lower than Sam’s. I’ve got roughly 30 of the 5-quart bottles in inventory now (keeping with my plan to have 4 to 5 years worth of non-perishables - and this oil is definitely non-perishable). Heck, after reading these comments, I may buy another 20 or so, for insurance, as $50 or even $100 per bottle in the near future would not surprise me a bit, once the dollar tanks.


24 posted on 09/12/2010 5:19:13 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Post #20


25 posted on 09/12/2010 5:20:58 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Pennzoil Platinum is also good stuff and avail for 21 or 22 bucks / 5 quarts at WM

BTW there is a “Free Republic” equivalent for motor oil on the internet.

Bobistheoilguy.com

They fight like cats and dogs over there about molecules.


26 posted on 09/12/2010 5:27:40 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I drove a new Mitsubihi 1980 Starion turbo 57,000 miles and never once changed the oil. I did add quarts when it got low though.
27 posted on 09/12/2010 5:28:38 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: nascarnation

Bookmarked, thanks


28 posted on 09/12/2010 5:29:33 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: OCC

“I know this guy whos great uncle built a corolla that runs on water gets 100mpg”


29 posted on 09/12/2010 5:35:25 PM PDT by omega4179 (christine2010.com)
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To: OCC

I was reading about guys that use synthetic and keep sending samples to a lab to confirm its still good. You could change the filter and add a quart every 7000 and just keep going for years.


30 posted on 09/12/2010 5:36:33 PM PDT by omega4179 (christine2010.com)
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To: wendy1946

FORD recommends 5000 miles with our new Fusion. I have an ‘02 Explorer with 175K on it, and have always changed at 5K. About every other oil change, I top off the crankcase with 1/2 can of STP. At 175K it still doesn’t use a drop of oil.


31 posted on 09/12/2010 5:38:09 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I change the oil in the little 4cyl car every 3 months about 5000 miles it only holds 4 quarts so is cheap to do. My diesel work truck holds 3 gallons of oil a little bit more expensive a proposition it goes 10000 miles between changes. If you are running a fleet check out the testing and the moly oils they can run up to 25k and save you a bunch. My FIL is in the oil and additives biz and as long as your tests are to spec you are golden. They can also tell you a lot about the condition of your engine just from testing the oil.


32 posted on 09/12/2010 5:38:47 PM PDT by scottteng ( IMPEACH OBAMA and elect Snitker as Florida Senator)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
My wife is a manager for a large retail car parts company and gets the oil and filters at a discount, and I do my own changes, so it comes out to about $50-$60 a year. All I need is a box-end wrench, the filter wrench, and a container to drain the oil in. She can even take the container to work in the truck and recycle it, so no used oil gets drained into the sewer (OK, I am a little 'green' around the edges, as any outdoorsman and classic conservationist should be). Mine is not the perfect life nor the perfect marriage, but it has it's occasional perks.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

33 posted on 09/12/2010 5:41:09 PM PDT by Viking2002 (2010 - NO PRISONERS! NO QUARTER!)
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To: Tucker39

My ‘96 F-250 drinks about three quarts a month (she expirates it through the flywheel) so her oil gets ‘changed’ daily.

Just flipped 200K miles.


34 posted on 09/12/2010 5:43:17 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: floozy22

It’s a pinging and not a tapping right? Reason I ask is because in my experience pinging is more associated with carburetion. But yours is probably fuel injected


35 posted on 09/12/2010 5:43:43 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: floozy22

Could your pinging problem be related to the fuel system/gasoline quality?


36 posted on 09/12/2010 5:44:01 PM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: Bad~Rodeo
For your normal high quality petroleum motor oils 3000 miles is just fine.

For synthetic high performance motor oils, consult both the auto and oil manufacturer for duration, and expect substantially longer intervals.

37 posted on 09/12/2010 5:44:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

On my 1991 Chevy pickup truck I would change the oil every 5000 miles with regular 5w30 oil. I had around 415000 on it when we traded it in during the “clunker” program. Still the original motor.


38 posted on 09/12/2010 5:46:12 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

You probably should have kept that truck.


39 posted on 09/12/2010 5:50:06 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Parley Baer
I had around 415000

No way, that's unheard of

40 posted on 09/12/2010 5:50:50 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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