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Young gay men fuelling HIV epidemic, study warns.
Guardian ^ | 7 sep 2010 | Sarah Boseley

Posted on 09/06/2010 9:01:49 PM PDT by GSP.FAN

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To: highpockets

“Homosexual love is based on long term commitment and mutual compassion.”


Love is not the issue here. It’s promiscuity based on sex drive.

I would hope, though, that no one assumes that homosexuals have a monopoly on greedy “self-serving, hateful” narcissism. There are plenty of heterosexuals who knowingly or recklessly transmit STDs as well, for self-serving reasons.

I wish there were more honesty in media about the true cost of promiscuity, especially in movies and such where the characters have flings with no visible ill consequences.


41 posted on 09/06/2010 10:18:23 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Frantzie

As you are a “packer fan” this might be good info for you.


42 posted on 09/06/2010 10:19:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: highpockets

>>Homosexual love is based on long term commitment and mutual compassion.

If there’s a pile of bullsh** bigger than that right there, I haven’t seen it.


43 posted on 09/06/2010 10:28:13 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: GSP.FAN
And the Darwin Award goes to.... (wait for it...)

8^)

44 posted on 09/06/2010 10:34:20 PM PDT by Gargantua (Palin-Bachman 2012... just call it "Pa-Bach" :-)
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To: dalebert
gee what happened to all the education solving that problem.

I guess the government never told them that AIDS is an Anally Inserted Death Sentence.

45 posted on 09/06/2010 10:34:32 PM PDT by skeptoid (The Road to Serfdom is being paved by RINOS)
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To: highpockets

A few statistic for you that are not homophobic lies nor published by Republicans, at least not officially.

1. * One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners

Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978

2. “Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States. They make up only 1-2% of the population.

“Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987

3. “Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex”

Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978

4. 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs.

Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA

5. The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75. The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79.

Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA


46 posted on 09/06/2010 10:50:01 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: ConservativeInCA2011
No fan of gay marriage here, but heterosexuals are just as bad these days, at least the ones who aren’t religious or have no moral compass. Some of the things hetero boyfriends tried to get me to do made my stomach turn. People need to calm down and stop being so damned promiscuous!

Unfortunately, I work in a healthcare environment that forces me to be aware of the specific, physical acts that homosexuals engage in, among other things, and I promise you that it is not the sort of information or visual imagery that any sort of decent person would ever 'want' to have soiling and scarring his or her neural landscape.

Suffice it to say that in my experience there is 'no contest' between the breathtakingly depraved acts that homosexuals routinely and enthusiastically engage in and ANYTHING that even a moderately sane  heterosexual would do.

I feel that it's important to avoid comparisons between heterosexual behaviors, even 'kinky' ones, and the homosexual 'lifestyle' as they call it.  They are two entirely different worlds, as different as any you might care to imagine, and one of the goals of the homosexual political movement is to encourage heterosexuals to think of what homosexuals do as 'only a slight difference'.

It's not, not by a long shot.

That being said, I agree wholeheartedly in your call for a reduction in promiscuity across the board

 

47 posted on 09/06/2010 10:59:32 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: GSP.FAN

I’ve been fighting for conservative gays over on another thread, but here one has to take a different tactic. It is the hedonistic LIFESTYLE that is making these boys sick. We need to work HARDER on young gay men to be celibate than we do for young straights. They are more at risk, and they have these communities where everything goes.

G-d made us humans, to not be like the animals. There are places and times that we have made sacred for mating, and other times are wrong. Gay men are all but encouraged to live very profligate lives, and we need to insist they remain members of society and keep to a higher standard of morality. Religion would help. I wish they were more welcome. I believe most of them want to live a good, decent life, but they are steered in the wrong direction.


48 posted on 09/06/2010 11:03:46 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: highpockets
No human being would endanger the life of another human being for something as selfish as momentary sexual gratification.

Sorry, I don't buy this. Tell that to two of my former "friends" who died of AIDS - one was a co-worker and the other, a high school friend, who introduced me to my (now) ex.

49 posted on 09/06/2010 11:04:01 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (We'll remember in November!)
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To: GSP.FAN

White House report: End state criminalization of HIV transmission

By LYNDA WADDINGTON 7/20/10 9:04 AM

A white paper issued this month by the Obama administration is calling for an end to state laws — including Iowa’s — that make transmission of HIV a crime.

“In many instances, the continued existence and enforcement of these types of laws run counter to scientific evidence about routes of HIV transmission and may undermine the public health goals of promoting HIV screening and treatment,” notes the report, which is copied in full below.

“CDC data and other studies, however, tell us that intentional HIV transmission is atypical and uncommon. A recent research study also found that HIV-specific laws do not influence the behavior of people living with HIV in those states where these laws exist.”

http://iowaindependent.com/39442/white-house-report-end-state-criminalization-of-hiv-transmission


50 posted on 09/06/2010 11:17:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: highpockets

The term ‘bareback’ appeared in the gay press in the mid-1990s. It initially referred to intentional condomless anal intercourse, mainly among HIV-infected gay men (Gendin 1997). However, by the time Silverstein and Picano published a new edition of the iconic The Joy of Gay Sex in 2003, bareback was defined simply as condomless gay sex. Early debates within the gay community focused on the risk of HIV transmission that the practice entailed for both HIV-seroconcordant and serodiscordant partners


51 posted on 09/06/2010 11:25:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: highpockets

Often called “bug chasers” among the gay community, these men seek out other gay men who are infected, in hopes of having unprotected sex, barebacking, in an effort to become infected with HIV. Across the Internet, chat rooms and newsgroups are advertising “conversion parties” where negative men seek out those who are positive in hopes of getting infected. This practice of having deliberate unprotected anal sex has the potential to cause widespread HIV infection, especially among gay men and men who seek out anonymous sexual partners on the Internet

Fantasies of HIV Infection - Not Just an Urban Myth

http://aids.about.com/od/safersexresources/a/barebacking.htm


52 posted on 09/06/2010 11:30:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: highpockets

[PDF] RollingStone.com: News: Bug Chasers

Bug Chasers. The men who long to be HIV+

http://www.solargeneral.com/library/bug-chasers.pdf


53 posted on 09/06/2010 11:38:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: highpockets

http://bugshare.net/discus/messages/61/1470.html?1168169369


54 posted on 09/06/2010 11:42:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: highpockets

To bug chasers, HIV isn’t a ruthless killer. It’s a gift - the most beautiful a man can willingly receive - spread through a secret breeding ground

Gregory A. Freeman

http://tinyurl.com/362s7ck


55 posted on 09/06/2010 11:47:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GSP.FAN

Uh-OH....
Someone is being politicly incorrect.

We ALL know that AIDS is spread by evil Republicans refusal to recognize Gay Marriage, and fund Gay political Orgs with your tax money, right?

Oh...
And Ronald Reagan, too!


56 posted on 09/06/2010 11:56:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: GSP.FAN
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.


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Many Christians focus on the concept of sexual depravity incurring God's wrath. But I see Romans 1 as reading just the opposite: sexual depravity, and all of the negative consequences that come with it, is God's wrath, His punishment to society for not honoring and giving thanks to God for all he has done for our nation.

I know there are some who would disagree, but the text seems pretty clear to me.
57 posted on 09/06/2010 11:57:21 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Mortrey

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Maybe he’s been hanging out at the “Man’s Club” too much:

Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.

The bath house, Man’s Country, caters to older white men and it has been in business for some 30 years and is known as one of uptown Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses.” Sources who are familiar with the bath house say that it provides one-year “lifetime” memberships to paying customers and that the club’s computerized files and pre-computer paper files, include membership information for both Obama and Emanuel. The data is as anonymized as possible for confidentiality purposes. However, sources close to “Man’s Country” believe the U.S. Secret Service has purged the computer and filing cabinet files of the membership data on Obama and Emanuel.

Members of Man’s Country are also issued club identification cards. An unnamed source learned that Obama and Emanuel possessed the ID cards, which were required for entry.

Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White House and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.

Man’s Country appears to be a “one stop shopping” center for gay men. The club’s website advertises steam rooms, “fantasy rooms,” bed rooms, male strippers, adult movies, and lockers.

However, Man’s Country was not the only location for Obama’s predatory gay sex activities. The Chicago gay community is aware that Obama often made contacts with younger men at his famous “pick-up basketball” games. It was at these “pick up” matches where Obama first met Emanuel and a young Democratic campaign worker and senior bank vice president named Alexi Giannoulias. Currently running for Obama’s old U.S. Senate seat now occupied by Roland Burris, Giannoulias successfully ran for Illinois Treasurer in 2006 after being drafted for the run by Chicago’s Democratic machine.
http://www.t-room.us/2010/05/cpw-permission-may-24-2010-special-report-obama-and-emanuel-members-of-same-gay-bath-house-club-in-chicago/

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Here in Chicago, depending on what community you’re in, “everyone” knows things about Dr. Utopia too. Our current occupant of the Oval Office, back when he was a “community organizer” for ACORN, a state senator, and an adjunct law professor, was indiscrete and up to all sorts of shennanigans by all accounts. He not only sat in the pews at Trinity United Church gleefully taking in all the hatred and paranoid delusions of Jeremiah Wright, but like many black men at Trinity he’d then find somewhere up north to “unwind” when fiery sermons couldn’t quench the same thirsts as, say, nights spent at the baths. In Chicago, guys in their late 40s and early 50s, who admit they used to go to bathhouses, love talking about a skinny black guy with big ears who said he was a “state rep”, whenever he’d go to Man’s Country to be serviced by white men there.

We’re in our 30s here and have never set foot in Man’s Country. But, go to Sidetracks on Showtunes nights, Little Jim’s or Northend on Halsted, or the Lucky Horseshoe at Belmont and talk to guys who’ve lived the scene, been there, done that, and will admit to being lifelong fans of Man’s Country.

They’ve got stories to tell, believe us.

The thing is, despite both Man’s Country and Steamworks (the two bathhouses in Chicago) being in business for DECADES, and doing fairly well, even in this economy, few people here will admit they’ve ever been there. Since they won’t admit they’ve gone there, they don’t want to be quoted talking about anyone else going there either. Absolutely none of them will go on record being the guy who talks about that skinny, effeminate, black “state rep” who liked having white men give him fellatio (but never reciprocated, the stories go).
More...http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/08/open-secrets-and-media-darlings/

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59 posted on 09/07/2010 3:10:56 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: kcvl
This is insane. Why would anyone want to become infected with AIDS?
60 posted on 09/07/2010 3:21:11 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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